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Geist posted...XtremeWRATH360 posted...Geist posted...XtremeWRATH360 posted...No
If you don't want Kinect, you don't want Xbox, hence your question is moot.
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Microsoft has an advertisement initiative called NuAds
A revolutionary way to get biological feedback from whoever watches your add
It will make them Billions
The problem is they don't have one reason what-so-ever why anyone would go to the store and plop down $100 for it.
If no one buys it, then NuAds is useless..who wants to advertise to the 1000 people who bought it?
So you FORCE it on everyone...now Kinect 2.0 is in 3 million+ homes...
Now MS can pitch this to advertisers and tell them their ads will reach 3million homes...
which is why they said the xbox would not work without Kinect initially...they were scared everyone would buy an xbox 1, and put Kinect in the garbage or trade it in.
JRDeBo posted...aheroafake posted...violentdissmay posted...Maybe they want the extra profit (as if there are any) to recoup their losses from the RRoD fiasco?
The only thing Blu-ray added was pushing a new media type onto the consumers. You could have gotten the same storage by using more DVDs (as shown by the 360) and lost nothing. Sony used the PS3 to push Blu-ray player sales instead of waiting for it to be cost effective (this gen) and gouged their loyal fans. If they went with the less expensive DVD player Sony probably would have trounced MS last gen. What the Kinect/Eye does (full body motion sensing) can't be replicated, it doesn't matter if YOU like what it does, it could add new gameplay experiences (likely won't) that you couldn't get without them. Which means adding the Kinect is more gamer friendly then adding the Blu-ray drive into the PS3.
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XtremeWRATH360 posted...aszsith posted...Xeeh_Bitz posted...aszsith posted...Purchase of luxury goods =/= forced
That would be a fine argument if the Kinect didn't inflate the price so much. If the system itself was 399 and not 499 that would be fine cause its not extra money out of my pocket for something i don't want. Just like that salad doesn't bring in such an inflated price with add ons. Its the fact i HAVE to have the Kinect and i HAVE to spend alot more on the system because im FORCED to have the Kinect whether i want it or not.
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Since Geist seems confused on the subject matter lets try a different approach.
Why must someone want Kinect to want an XB1 if they just want it for exclusives?
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The internet Analogies keep getting worse and worse over time
Your salad bar one is pretty awful.
Kinectless xbox will be a thing or the xbox will keep being a mile behind the competition, at this point it's super obvious that they have alterior motives, because they would of dropped it by now based on feedback (You know, that thing that made them completely 180 and change their entire console plan 6 months ago, and made their execs all look like morons for lying about the drm requirements?)
They're already done things like Cut the Kinects power, which means we're not going to get a game that fully utilizes the thing, because it's already been hardcoded down in the system.
video game accessories should be optional except specific games.
It was a pretty bad analogy though the fact someone agreed with him just saddens me. A Salad is what 5-10 bucks at places yeah totally comparable to a 400 dollar system.
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aszsith posted...So you don't want an XBOne then. You want something different, let's call it an XBOneLight. You want a part of the package. Unfortunately, that doesn't exist.
You ASSUME what the cost of the Kinect is, but as it is not available as a stand along product, you cannot assign a designated retail price to it.
Regardless, you haven't proven that you are forced to have the Kinect. You have argued that you don't want the Kinect and you conclude that it should not be included with the XBOne. Which is fine. You are allowed to have that viewpoint. However, that opinion does not magically make your desires into reality.
As is, you stated you would be fine if the price was $100 lower. Therefore, the Kinect isn't the issue. Your perception that you are paying extra for Kinect is the issue, and I suspect that no matter what price the package is at, you would baulk at it if the Kinect were to be included. Therefore, my initial assessment is upheld: You do not want the XBOne. You want a different product that as yet has not been (and potentially never will) be released.
ALL games should have a Single Player mode. I can always guarantee I want to play when I turn on my system. I can't guarantee others will at the same time.
Don't want Kinect = Don't want XBOne
So the people that bought an xbox one but didn't plug in the kinect don't actually want the xbox one they just bought?
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