MS should be willing to eat the cost of Kinect, and drop the price to $350.

#112Party0ligarchyPosted 4/24/2014 3:20:27 PM
$300 would be a more fair price for a 900p machine.
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#12scoobydoobydontPosted 4/24/2014 3:25:36 PM
As someone who likes and defends Kinect quite a lot, I can't really disagree with you, tc. Packing it in every box shows a degree of confidence in the product, but just the same, taking a loss on it and being far more aggressive would definitely move more consoles.
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#13Jedi454Posted 4/24/2014 3:29:25 PM
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#14Combo626Posted 4/24/2014 4:24:08 PM
Izraeil posted...
Combo626 posted...
I'll let them know right away!


This is why it's nice to have shills around here.


As much as it's good to have such a gaggle of people with business degrees and years of experience in the industry.
You know, instead of nasty fat people who have indents in their couches, pit stained shirts covered in Cheetos grease.
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#15Duke_of_NukePosted 4/24/2014 4:39:57 PM
Jedi454 posted...
MRL3G3ND posted...
this should have been the strategy from jump...MS' business sense is horrid...

If their ultimate goal is a separate funding stream from kinects NuADs campaign...they should have given it to everyone...Trojan horsed it in everyones home.

They could have matched price with the PS4 and claimed more value with the Kinect...

they dropped the ball on NuAds AND they failed to provide a reason to own a Kinect smh

the only way to justify it now is for the VR revolution to take off...everyone already has a camera, and every Oculus demonstration used Kinect 1.0 already....they have half the kit already.

judging by their poor business sense, and general out of touchness right now...they will probably be the last to that table as well smh


If you believed that, you'd be least intelligent human being on these forums.


Windows Vista, 7, 8.

Microsoft is in big trouble truth be told.
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#16MRL3G3NDPosted 4/25/2014 9:19:28 AM
Jedi454 posted...
MRL3G3ND posted...
Jedi454 posted...
MRL3G3ND posted...
this should have been the strategy from jump...MS' business sense is horrid...

If their ultimate goal is a separate funding stream from kinects NuADs campaign...they should have given it to everyone...Trojan horsed it in everyones home.

They could have matched price with the PS4 and claimed more value with the Kinect...

they dropped the ball on NuAds AND they failed to provide a reason to own a Kinect smh

the only way to justify it now is for the VR revolution to take off...everyone already has a camera, and every Oculus demonstration used Kinect 1.0 already....they have half the kit already.

judging by their poor business sense, and general out of touchness right now...they will probably be the last to that table as well smh


If you believed that, you'd be least intelligent human being on these forums.


right...like the guy who blatantly disagrees without a shred of evidence to support his claims... I gotta be a least one level above him...


You just took your stupidity to the next level.


...gonna need you to read your sig again...and again
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#17MilesTeg420Posted 4/25/2014 9:28:20 AM
If MS was smart, they would do an official drop to $399 w/Kinect NOW. Not at E3. Not in September. Not holiday 2014. Now. The console sales will pick up, and they would be able to stay at $399 indefinitely, likely through holiday 2015. Sony won't be dropping their price of PS4 until 2016, holiday 2015 at the earliest.
#18Engineer-samaPosted 4/25/2014 9:30:52 AM
Maybe they should just give the console for free.

That way, all you people would stop complaining.
#19regsantotomasPosted 4/25/2014 9:35:53 AM
Engineer-sama posted...
Maybe they should just give the console for free.

That way, all you people would stop complaining.


Ha! You would think that but I would bet these pro bono industry analysts would still find something to complain about.
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#20Enigma149Posted 4/25/2014 9:42:44 AM
Duke_of_Nuke posted...
Windows Vista, 7, 8.

Microsoft is in big trouble truth be told.


Ugh, not this crap again.

Okay, look, Windows Vista was bad (well...relatively-speaking, of course), but even then, it wasn't a commercial failure - at the very least, it laid the groundwork for Windows 7, which is one of Microsoft's most successful operating systems that earned them billions upon billions of dollars. Windows 8 may be unpopular, but they've still sold hundreds of millions of licenses and made billions of dollars off of the operating system alone.

Now, don't get me wrong - even if Windows was selling like hotcakes, if Microsoft was bleeding money left and right, this would be meaningless...but they aren't.

Their biggest revenue and profit generator isn't Windows at all, but Office - and profits have only been rising in recent years, mostly thanks to Office 365. Azure has developed into a respected cloud-computing platform. Even the Surface has managed to avoid being the failure everyone said it was after the initial $900 million write down, and though it still has a long way to go before sales can be considered high, at least they're rising.

What's more, contrary to popular belief, the Xbox is actually remarkably successful, and has earned them billions of dollars over the past several years - reports about the Xbox division being "in the hole" are true, but Microsoft's losses all came during the years of the original Xbox and early years of the 360 - since then, they've been making money hand-over-fist (before fanboys jump on me, I should point out at this point that the "$2 billion annual loss on Xbox" one analyst claimed was buried deep within Microsoft's earnings reports has been proven false).

They're profits are high, they're stock is rising, and their sales are reaching expectations. How, exactly, is Microsoft "in trouble"?
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