Xbox One is actually doing well

#21nableetPosted 4/28/2014 2:04:14 AM
Xbone sold really well in its first two months, but sales have not been great since then. I'm sure it will pick up when some new games come out or another price drop, but I wouldn't be happy with current sales.
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#22Styrof0amPosted 4/28/2014 2:24:17 AM
newbie2007 posted...
You are playing with words. I'm not. Whatever careful words you choose, the truth is still that MS has significant inventory piling up, and that's not good.

But that still doesn't make it a fact, that XB1 production has been halted ... Or frozen.

The original piece gamasutra posted reads ...

UPDATE: The topic of Microsoft's Xbox business was barely raised during its investor call, with no analysts asking about it at all. Some of CFO Amy Hood's statements did imply, however, that there is more supply than demand for its Xbox consoles.

Also note the plural; consoles.
The production bit could be regarding the XB 360 (no, I don't believe it is, but it COULD be).

I'm not business savvy enough to know wether or not this is bad. For all I know, MS could be looking to cut costs for the 4th financial quarter to boost it's yearly financial reports.

What I do know, is that XB1 is in competition with the projected sales numbers, not how much the competition sells. Yes, MS want to be no. 1, but no one is panicking because they're in second or third place. Just like no one at Dr Pepper or Pepsi are panicking because they don't sell the no. 1 cola product. That doesn't mean they'll sit idly by. MS will of course try new strategies to gain market shares and perform over their projected sales numbers.

We don't know, wether or not they're on track against said numbers.


Source:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/216199/Xbox_One_increases_Microsoft_revenues__but_its_cost_cuts_into_profits.php
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#23Cowboy082288Posted 4/28/2014 2:33:09 AM
Styrof0am posted...
newbie2007 posted...
You are playing with words. I'm not. Whatever careful words you choose, the truth is still that MS has significant inventory piling up, and that's not good.

But that still doesn't make it a fact, that XB1 production has been halted ... Or frozen.

The original piece gamasutra posted reads ...

UPDATE: The topic of Microsoft's Xbox business was barely raised during its investor call, with no analysts asking about it at all. Some of CFO Amy Hood's statements did imply, however, that there is more supply than demand for its Xbox consoles.

Also note the plural; consoles.
The production bit could be regarding the XB 360 (no, I don't believe it is, but it COULD be).

I'm not business savvy enough to know wether or not this is bad. For all I know, MS could be looking to cut costs for the 4th financial quarter to boost it's yearly financial reports.

What I do know, is that XB1 is in competition with the projected sales numbers, not how much the competition sells. Yes, MS want to be no. 1, but no one is panicking because they're in second or third place. Just like no one at Dr Pepper or Pepsi are panicking because they don't sell the no. 1 cola product. That doesn't mean they'll sit idly by. MS will of course try new strategies to gain market shares and perform over their projected sales numbers.

We don't know, wether or not they're on track against said numbers.


Source:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/216199/Xbox_One_increases_Microsoft_revenues__but_its_cost_cuts_into_profits.php


I wouldn't bother. Posters like that person like to make up "Facts" and then accuse you of playing with words when you call them on it.
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#24LapanuiPosted 4/28/2014 2:39:22 AM
Considering the X1 and PS4 are doing better than the predecessors in the same amount of time, goes to show how amazing they are both doing.

The PS4 is selling more because to a lot of people, it's more appealing. This doesn't mean the X1 is doing terrible because it is actually selling.

By a lot of people's logic, the 360 and the PS3 were flops at launch compared to the X1 and PS4.
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#25quincy2000aPosted 4/28/2014 2:57:45 AM(edited)
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Production-May-Stall-Sales-Slow-Down-63710.html

"On the side of Sony, we have the PlayStation 4 moving units at a lightning's pace. On the side of Microsoft, we have the Xbox One moving units about as fast as a crippled old lady trying to walk the length of the autobahn."

"BGR picked up a story from Gamasutra, where during a conference call Microsoft's chief financial officer, Amy Hood, dropped some less than encouraging information about the production and sales status of the Xbox One, with Gamasutra writing...

“"We do expect to work through some inventory in Q4," said Hood, referring in this case to the period between April 1 - June 30, 2014. She also referred to "channel inventory drawdown for Xbox consoles," implying that manufacturing of Xbox consoles will slow or stop, to allow retailers time to work through existing inventory.“ "


"So what does that tell us about this marathon so far? It tells us that Microsoft is a crippled old lady running the autobahn and Sony is Lolo Jones running a track relay. There's just no competition."
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/04/18/if-this-keeps-up-microsoft-has-a-sony-problem/

"...That led Microsoft to respond with a report of its own claiming 5 million Xbox Ones shipped to retailers. The careful observer has already caught the difference between sales and shipments, suggesting Microsoft’s number is soft."

"...Everyone seems to agree the biggest issue is the $100 price gap between the two systems, which is mostly a function of the decision to bundle the Kinect with Xbox One. But there is little doubt that ill will associated with the botched Xbox launch hasn’t helped matters much."
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#26CombaticusXY(Topic Creator)Posted 4/28/2014 3:12:14 AM
quincy2000a posted...
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Production-May-Stall-Sales-Slow-Down-63710.html

"On the side of Sony, we have the PlayStation 4 moving units at a lightning's pace. On the side of Microsoft, we have the Xbox One moving units about as fast as a crippled old lady trying to walk the length of the autobahn."

"BGR picked up a story from Gamasutra, where during a conference call Microsoft's chief financial officer, Amy Hood, dropped some less than encouraging information about the production and sales status of the Xbox One, with Gamasutra writing...

“"We do expect to work through some inventory in Q4," said Hood, referring in this case to the period between April 1 - June 30, 2014. She also referred to "channel inventory drawdown for Xbox consoles," implying that manufacturing of Xbox consoles will slow or stop, to allow retailers time to work through existing inventory.“ "


"So what does that tell us about this marathon so far? It tells us that Microsoft is a crippled old lady running the autobahn and Sony is Lolo Jones running a track relay. There's just no competition."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/04/18/if-this-keeps-up-microsoft-has-a-sony-problem/

"...That led Microsoft to respond with a report of its own claiming 5 million Xbox Ones shipped to retailers. The careful observer has already caught the difference between sales and shipments, suggesting Microsoft’s number is soft."

"...Everyone seems to agree the biggest issue is the $100 price gap between the two systems, which is mostly a function of the decision to bundle the Kinect with Xbox One. But there is little doubt that ill will associated with the botched Xbox launch hasn’t helped matters much."


Did that make you feel better?
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#27CombaticusXY(Topic Creator)Posted 4/28/2014 4:19:11 AM
Any other new games I may have missed?
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#28IzraeilPosted 4/28/2014 4:33:41 AM
CombaticusXY posted...
quincy2000a posted...
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Production-May-Stall-Sales-Slow-Down-63710.html

"On the side of Sony, we have the PlayStation 4 moving units at a lightning's pace. On the side of Microsoft, we have the Xbox One moving units about as fast as a crippled old lady trying to walk the length of the autobahn."

"BGR picked up a story from Gamasutra, where during a conference call Microsoft's chief financial officer, Amy Hood, dropped some less than encouraging information about the production and sales status of the Xbox One, with Gamasutra writing...

“"We do expect to work through some inventory in Q4," said Hood, referring in this case to the period between April 1 - June 30, 2014. She also referred to "channel inventory drawdown for Xbox consoles," implying that manufacturing of Xbox consoles will slow or stop, to allow retailers time to work through existing inventory.“ "


"So what does that tell us about this marathon so far? It tells us that Microsoft is a crippled old lady running the autobahn and Sony is Lolo Jones running a track relay. There's just no competition."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/04/18/if-this-keeps-up-microsoft-has-a-sony-problem/

"...That led Microsoft to respond with a report of its own claiming 5 million Xbox Ones shipped to retailers. The careful observer has already caught the difference between sales and shipments, suggesting Microsoft’s number is soft."

"...Everyone seems to agree the biggest issue is the $100 price gap between the two systems, which is mostly a function of the decision to bundle the Kinect with Xbox One. But there is little doubt that ill will associated with the botched Xbox launch hasn’t helped matters much."


Did that make you feel better?


Did the video make you feel better?
#29quincy2000aPosted 4/28/2014 4:34:36 AM
CombaticusXY posted...
quincy2000a posted...
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Production-May-Stall-Sales-Slow-Down-63710.html

"On the side of Sony, we have the PlayStation 4 moving units at a lightning's pace. On the side of Microsoft, we have the Xbox One moving units about as fast as a crippled old lady trying to walk the length of the autobahn."

"BGR picked up a story from Gamasutra, where during a conference call Microsoft's chief financial officer, Amy Hood, dropped some less than encouraging information about the production and sales status of the Xbox One, with Gamasutra writing...

“"We do expect to work through some inventory in Q4," said Hood, referring in this case to the period between April 1 - June 30, 2014. She also referred to "channel inventory drawdown for Xbox consoles," implying that manufacturing of Xbox consoles will slow or stop, to allow retailers time to work through existing inventory.“ "


"So what does that tell us about this marathon so far? It tells us that Microsoft is a crippled old lady running the autobahn and Sony is Lolo Jones running a track relay. There's just no competition."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2014/04/18/if-this-keeps-up-microsoft-has-a-sony-problem/

"...That led Microsoft to respond with a report of its own claiming 5 million Xbox Ones shipped to retailers. The careful observer has already caught the difference between sales and shipments, suggesting Microsoft’s number is soft."

"...Everyone seems to agree the biggest issue is the $100 price gap between the two systems, which is mostly a function of the decision to bundle the Kinect with Xbox One. But there is little doubt that ill will associated with the botched Xbox launch hasn’t helped matters much."


Did that make you feel better?


Actually, yes.

The truth, sometimes no matter how harsh, has a way of doing that...for most people.
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#30lunchbox2042Posted 4/28/2014 5:11:01 AM
If a growing gap between your competitor's item and yours is doing well then sure, they're doing well. If being outsold in a month where you released your biggest game so far for the console, bundled it with a console and dropped the price by $50 is doing well, then sure they're doing well.