Spencer says plans to decouple Kinect from Xbox One began in April for consumers

#1BaronVladzPosted 5/15/2014 1:09:32 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/05/head-of-xbox-says-plans-to-decouple-kinect-from-xbox-one-began-in-april/

In an interview with Ars Technica, Microsoft's Head of Xbox Phil Spencer confirmed that efforts to offer a no-Kinect edition of Xbox One began as soon as he joined the Xbox team five weeks ago and that today’s out-of-nowhere announcement was meant to “get the product and the choice in front of consumers as soon as possible.”


When pressed about Microsoft’s repeated, stubborn statements in the past about Kinect being an essential part of the Xbox One, Spencer countered that consumer response proved more important. “We have spent thousands of hours in engineering to make sure voice, gestures, and even IR for TV work great, but when a consumer walks in the store—$399 is a point we hear from consumers that they want Xbox at,” Spencer said. “I wanted to make sure players were heard.”

Spencer insisted that Microsoft’s internal Kinect roadmap has not changed and that the small number of Kinect-heavy games launched or announced thus far did not factor into Xbox’s announcement today. He also cited a surge in Kinect-specific activity in Xbox One apps such as Skype and Twitch.
#2method115Posted 5/15/2014 1:15:14 PM
I'm sure this is all true. It's the first thing anybody would do who knew what was going on.
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#3TheCyborgNinjaPosted 5/15/2014 1:17:26 PM
MS gets it. A year ago, they thought they could get away with murder. They've been humbled, just like Sony was with the PS3. The only real difference being MS has more options when it comes to policy reversals. Sony just had to sit back and wait for parts to become cheaper.
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#4Ryan-06Posted 5/15/2014 1:20:04 PM
TheCyborgNinja posted...
MS gets it.


Wrong. PHIL SPENCER gets it. He's thankfully one of the few at MS with a brain. So props and credit for taking the xbox brand in the better directions it's going now.

Should've been day 1 of course. Good job, Phil! Go buy him a philly cheese steak sandwich now.
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#5dnmtPosted 5/15/2014 1:21:35 PM(edited)
That's funny, here's what good ol' Spencer had to say about it last month:

The new man in charge at Xbox touches on a wide range of topics within our new issue’s cover feature, not least the continued presence of Kinect within its console offering. To justify its presence, there are more Kinect games coming – “There are a number of games on the ID@Xbox programme that use Kinect, and you’ll see more games in the fall,” he tells us – and Microsoft still doesn’t feel the need to remove it from the Xbox One package just yet, though it would reduce its price.

“We’re always trying to match what consumers are asking for,” he says. “I always want to make sure that we’re in tune with what current or potential customers are asking for from us. Right now, [dropping Kinect is] not the number one request from people. Usually it’s, ‘Where are the great games?’”

http://www.edge-online.com/news/can-microsoft-turn-things-around-for-xbox-one-we-speak-to-phil-spencer-phil-harrison-and-more-to-find-out/


Nice lie, there.
#6method115Posted 5/15/2014 1:21:25 PM
TheCyborgNinja posted...
MS gets it. A year ago, they thought they could get away with murder. They've been humbled, just like Sony was with the PS3. The only real difference being MS has more options when it comes to policy reversals. Sony just had to sit back and wait for parts to become cheaper.


I think they're both in a similar situation because MS can't make the X1 hardware more powerful and that's still one of the biggest problems. No one wants to hear that the system they just paid $400 can't run games as good as the competitor. Regardless of how small the difference is no one wants to hear that.

PS3 was screwed because cell was so hard to work with basically throughout the gen. Getting a Bethseda game on the PS3 was basically asking for problems.
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#7VoidBeyondPosted 5/15/2014 1:25:23 PM
dnmt posted...
That's funny, here's what good ol' Spencer had to say about it last month:

The new man in charge at Xbox touches on a wide range of topics within our new issue’s cover feature, not least the continued presence of Kinect within its console offering. To justify its presence, there are more Kinect games coming – “There are a number of games on the ID@Xbox programme that use Kinect, and you’ll see more games in the fall,” he tells us – and Microsoft still doesn’t feel the need to remove it from the Xbox One package just yet, though it would reduce its price.

“We’re always trying to match what consumers are asking for,” he says. “I always want to make sure that we’re in tune with what current or potential customers are asking for from us. Right now, [dropping Kinect is] not the number one request from people. Usually it’s, ‘Where are the great games?’”

http://www.edge-online.com/news/can-microsoft-turn-things-around-for-xbox-one-we-speak-to-phil-spencer-phil-harrison-and-more-to-find-out/


Nice lie, there.


Notice how he said MICROSOFT doesn't want to. He didn't say "We at Microsoft" or "The Xbox division and I"
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#8cheezedadadaPosted 5/15/2014 1:29:07 PM
dnmt posted...
That's funny, here's what good ol' Spencer had to say about it last month:

The new man in charge at Xbox touches on a wide range of topics within our new issue’s cover feature, not least the continued presence of Kinect within its console offering. To justify its presence, there are more Kinect games coming – “There are a number of games on the ID@Xbox programme that use Kinect, and you’ll see more games in the fall,” he tells us – and Microsoft still doesn’t feel the need to remove it from the Xbox One package just yet, though it would reduce its price.

“We’re always trying to match what consumers are asking for,” he says. “I always want to make sure that we’re in tune with what current or potential customers are asking for from us. Right now, [dropping Kinect is] not the number one request from people. Usually it’s, ‘Where are the great games?’”

http://www.edge-online.com/news/can-microsoft-turn-things-around-for-xbox-one-we-speak-to-phil-spencer-phil-harrison-and-more-to-find-out/


Nice lie, there.


If anything, looking back and seeing "just yet" was a sign that it was awfully close. Reading it now seems clear that was the intention. Saying "just yet" is pretty much like he was saying "yeah not today, but in a couple of months it will be available". They had plans to do it when that quote came out, but it wasnt available yet, so its not a straight up lie.
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#9dnmtPosted 5/15/2014 1:39:10 PM
You keep defending the indefensible. It's not a very good look for you.
#10InjusticeRebornPosted 5/15/2014 1:39:26 PM
dnmt posted...
That's funny, here's what good ol' Spencer had to say about it last month:

The new man in charge at Xbox touches on a wide range of topics within our new issue’s cover feature, not least the continued presence of Kinect within its console offering. To justify its presence, there are more Kinect games coming – “There are a number of games on the ID@Xbox programme that use Kinect, and you’ll see more games in the fall,” he tells us – and Microsoft still doesn’t feel the need to remove it from the Xbox One package just yet, though it would reduce its price.

“We’re always trying to match what consumers are asking for,” he says. “I always want to make sure that we’re in tune with what current or potential customers are asking for from us. Right now, [dropping Kinect is] not the number one request from people. Usually it’s, ‘Where are the great games?’”

http://www.edge-online.com/news/can-microsoft-turn-things-around-for-xbox-one-we-speak-to-phil-spencer-phil-harrison-and-more-to-find-out/


Nice lie, there.


What is conflicting for you?

Supposedly, Spencer gets the job, and as soon as he wants to offer a Kinect free Xbox One and puts the idea forward. Microsoft is being stubborn about it. He gives that interview you're quoting.

Microsoft cave in (for whatever reason), and now there is a Kinect free Xbox One. He gives that interview in the opening post.

I don't get what you're trying to point out? :/
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