MS vs Sony and why Sony is in trouble

#1innuendo1984Posted 5/17/2014 1:26:45 AM
Something curious I've seen on both this, and other, sites.

We know from MS themselves, that the XBO broke even/made a profit from launch ( http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-05-xbox-one-will-be-break-even-or-profit-making-from-launch ).
Yet, when MS releases financial reports, that are positive, a certain demographic tries to spin it into a negative by claiming that XBO red numbers are hidden in other departments and/or behind license sales from other markets (eg. smartphones) ( http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY14/Q2/default.aspx ).

But when Sony releases red numbers across the board it spun into; the gaming division is doing fine. No one even suggests Sony does exactly, what the same people claim MS does (ie. hiding red numbers). Remember every PS4 is sold at a loss, so every sold unit is contributing to digging the company deeper into the financial hole, they're stuck in ( http://ps4daily.com/2013/09/sony-will-sell-the-playstation-4-at-a-loss/ ).
This is despite Sony showing all the telltale signs of a corporation in trouble:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/28/sony-to-sell-former-tokyo-headquarters/
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-04-16-sony-sells-all-square-enix-stock
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-03-25-sony-confirms-uk-layoffs
http://www.deadline.com/2014/03/sony-layoffs-hit-distribution-dallas-office-to-close-l-a-operations-support-group-affected/
http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2014/03/sony-close-additional-offices-resulting-more-layoffs

And their MAIN revenue coming from insurances ( http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/28/business/global/sonys-bread-and-butter-its-not-electronics.html?_r=0 ).
How long before Sony will have to sell of game studios to stay aflot? (those things are expensive to run between releases).

Actually the same people claiming XB will be sold off because of what the CEO, former CEO and/or they think the stock holders think (based on less than 2% of those), completely lack the ability to apply the same logic on Sony. They somehow think Sony stockholders are happy with the junkbond status it has now?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/14/sony-rating-idUST9N0JX03220140214
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-25908494
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/22/investing/fitch-sony-panasonic-downgrade/index.html?iid=EL

PS4 may be the most popular console, but what does it matter when it's sold at a loss, and couldn't save thr Sony stock. I think Sony stockholders will want to sell everything off except the insurance and banking.

Below there'lll be a bunch of 'reassurance' replies below from people who didn't read the topic properly (or they just read the headline), or simply refuse to face facts (note the links provided, I'm not making any of this up). Also I don't own a 360 or a XBO.
The most hilarious part is that the people posting reassurance replies are actually reassuring themselves (people with low self esteem will generally try to feel better by belittling others)
#2Pixx0Posted 5/17/2014 1:31:35 AM
Only reassurance post I read is yours...go figure.
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#3innuendo1984(Topic Creator)Posted 5/17/2014 1:36:12 AM
Pixx0 posted...
Only reassurance post I read is yours...go figure.

Oh I'm sorry, did I post something not factual?
So sony is not in finacial trouble, and there is not a double-standard when it comes to financial reports?

I guess you missed the part about me not owning a 360 or a XBO. Steam FTW
#4slowdog76Posted 5/17/2014 1:36:45 AM
Pixx0 posted...
Only reassurance post I read is yours...go figure.


and yet, it would appear, that you didn't read what he wrote at all
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#5L4YER_CAKEPosted 5/17/2014 1:39:03 AM
Better question. who the f--- cares?
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#6Cee-Jay-HaychPosted 5/17/2014 1:46:58 AM
innuendo1984 posted...
We know from MS themselves, that the XBO broke even/made a profit from launch ( http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-05-xbox-one-will-be-break-even-or-profit-making-from-launch ).


http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-11-07-huge-xbox-losses-hidden-by-patent-royalties-says-analyst
With the amount of times Microsoft have lied and back-pedalled with the Xbox One I'm more inclined to believe an analyst then the company.
#7sexbonePosted 5/17/2014 2:11:12 AM
tldr TT
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#8TheCyborgNinjaPosted 5/17/2014 2:17:05 AM(edited)
GameFAQs has been overtaken by a Sony cult. Ironic, considering how much hate the PS3 received for the first few years it was on the market. Reason has taken a backseat to faith, and there's a clear "if you're not with us, you're wrong!" attitude. The hypocrisy is out of control. Anyone with an IQ higher than tomato-level realizes that the better both consoles do, the more we all benefit.

Nana nana nana nana Sony! Nana nana nana nana Sony!

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#9jairusmonillasPosted 5/17/2014 2:22:37 AM
Sony is trouble? they've been in trouble for like 10 years and yet here we are today, ps4 destroying xbox one and even forcing them to backpedal.
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#10RyuuHou25Posted 5/17/2014 2:23:22 AM
Cee-Jay-Haych posted...
innuendo1984 posted...
We know from MS themselves, that the XBO broke even/made a profit from launch ( http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-05-xbox-one-will-be-break-even-or-profit-making-from-launch ).


http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-11-07-huge-xbox-losses-hidden-by-patent-royalties-says-analyst
With the amount of times Microsoft have lied and back-pedalled with the Xbox One I'm more inclined to believe an analyst then the company.


I don't think TC much liked your factual post.....even though he claimed to have no issue with factual posts of course. Irony.
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