COMMENT | 3-1 to Sony? Microsoft need a new console, and soon

#11MasteroftheArtsPosted 8/1/2014 4:01:34 AM
What a terrible article. It takes disperate facts and weaves a clever narrative which is wholly false. The X1 is doing fine. It could be doing much better, but talk about starting a new console is beyond absurd.

Firstly, why does the author focus on monthly sales instead of STD? If VGchartz is to be believed, we're currently at 5 million for X1 to PS4's 8.7 million. Not even 2 to 1. If we look at YTD, the X1 is at 1.9 million to the PS4's 4.3 million; a little over 2 to 1. It's almost as if the author is searching for a statistic which can legitimize the narrative of the article rather than following the statistics that we have. If the next two months, the X1 outsells the PS4 by 10,000 units each month, will the author then release another article proclaiming Microsoft's salvation from its struggles; even though the difference in sales is virtually non-existent from today's? Using short-term stats to make long-term predictions is tantamount to using this week's weather forecast to predict trends in Climate Change.

Secondly, the messaging in this piece makes no sense whatsoever. Early in the article the author says this:

We've said since the two consoles launched that Microsoft have had the better exclusives thus far. We've suggested that they have the better exclusive lineup this Christmas, what with the Master Chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, and Forza Horizon 2 edging LittleBigPlanet 3, Driveclub, and (if it's even still on track for this year) PlanetSide 2.


So what we're to infer from this is that Microsoft is doing a great job providing content for their system, but since the sales are slipping, they should abandon this and instead focus on working on a new console. It makes no sense whatsoever. The problem is the messaging. People are now convinced that PS4 offers the superior experience because of the paywall, (which no longer exists), the cheaper premium service (which is actually more expensive if you're smart), the price (which is no longer relevant) and the better multiplats (which, while currently a significant problem, won't last as both consoles continue to optimize and hit the 1080p/60 fps wall for this generation.)

Perhaps he means that Microsoft needs a new console in a metaphorical sense in that they need to change direction; even this makes little sense in light of the quote above as they're already in a good position, they just aren't making enough sales. The issue is the messaging. Microsoft screwed up their messaging, then they backtracked when they should have stood firm and demonstrated how their system is superior, then they dropped mandatory support of the Kinect which is possibly a smart move which only time will tell. Now the criticism is that Microsoft has no vision instead of the criticism that Microsoft is not for the gamers. They have done a remarkably poor job of explaining their position well to the average gamer. While this will fix itself in time, they will continue to fall back in sales until this is fixed. Fortunately, the article correctly points out that Spencer is already starting to change this.

There is an issue with the claim that they're abandoning their original vision, but I'm running out of room, so I'll just mention it.

Overall, these FUD articles do nothing other than foster divisive battles with each side rah rah'ing their console of choice rather than understanding the reality that both consoles have novel features and advantages to offer. It's up to consumers to decide what features are for them. Personally, I love the X1 exclusives and the Kinect and have used it every day since I got the console when it launched. For those that don't like it and want extra power in their system and a more comprehensive indie library, the PS4 is for you.
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#12GeistPosted 8/1/2014 4:03:24 AM
You people fall for the same topic every day. At this point I think you want to be trolled.
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#13ScRuiPosted 8/1/2014 4:07:58 AM
MasteroftheArts posted...
What a terrible article. It takes disperate facts and weaves a clever narrative which is wholly false. The X1 is doing fine. It could be doing much better, but talk about starting a new console is beyond absurd.

Firstly, why does the author focus on monthly sales instead of STD? If VGchartz is to be believed, we're currently at 5 million for X1 to PS4's 8.7 million. Not even 2 to 1. If we look at YTD, the X1 is at 1.9 million to the PS4's 4.3 million; a little over 2 to 1. It's almost as if the author is searching for a statistic which can legitimize the narrative of the article rather than following the statistics that we have. If the next two months, the X1 outsells the PS4 by 10,000 units each month, will the author then release another article proclaiming Microsoft's salvation from its struggles; even though the difference in sales is virtually non-existent from today's? Using short-term stats to make long-term predictions is tantamount to using this week's weather forecast to predict trends in Climate Change.

Secondly, the messaging in this piece makes no sense whatsoever. Early in the article the author says this:

We've said since the two consoles launched that Microsoft have had the better exclusives thus far. We've suggested that they have the better exclusive lineup this Christmas, what with the Master Chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, and Forza Horizon 2 edging LittleBigPlanet 3, Driveclub, and (if it's even still on track for this year) PlanetSide 2.


So what we're to infer from this is that Microsoft is doing a great job providing content for their system, but since the sales are slipping, they should abandon this and instead focus on working on a new console. It makes no sense whatsoever. The problem is the messaging. People are now convinced that PS4 offers the superior experience because of the paywall, (which no longer exists), the cheaper premium service (which is actually more expensive if you're smart), the price (which is no longer relevant) and the better multiplats (which, while currently a significant problem, won't last as both consoles continue to optimize and hit the 1080p/60 fps wall for this generation.)

Perhaps he means that Microsoft needs a new console in a metaphorical sense in that they need to change direction; even this makes little sense in light of the quote above as they're already in a good position, they just aren't making enough sales. The issue is the messaging. Microsoft screwed up their messaging, then they backtracked when they should have stood firm and demonstrated how their system is superior, then they dropped mandatory support of the Kinect which is possibly a smart move which only time will tell. Now the criticism is that Microsoft has no vision instead of the criticism that Microsoft is not for the gamers. They have done a remarkably poor job of explaining their position well to the average gamer. While this will fix itself in time, they will continue to fall back in sales until this is fixed. Fortunately, the article correctly points out that Spencer is already starting to change this.

There is an issue with the claim that they're abandoning their original vision, but I'm running out of room, so I'll just mention it.

Overall, these FUD articles do nothing other than foster divisive battles with each side rah rah'ing their console of choice rather than understanding the reality that both consoles have novel features and advantages to offer. It's up to consumers to decide what features are for them. Personally, I love the X1 exclusives and the Kinect and have used it every day since I got the console when it launched. For those that don't like it and want extra power in their system and a more comprehensive indie library, the PS4 is for you.


+1 ... 100% agree
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#14PoweredMilkManPosted 8/1/2014 4:12:10 AM
Well said master
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#15slowdog76Posted 8/1/2014 4:53:28 AM
i havent clicked the link. i havent read a single answer here.

the link is an opinion piece from some random person, am i right?
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#16MasteroftheArtsPosted 8/1/2014 5:14:56 AM
slowdog76 posted...
i havent clicked the link. i havent read a single answer here.

the link is an opinion piece from some random person, am i right?


Yep. There's no reason for you to read it.

Spend the time downloading Black Mesa instead.
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#17RybalPosted 8/1/2014 7:38:39 AM
MasteroftheArts made some good points.

However, this article's title is the very definition of clickbait. MasteroftheArts makes a good point about using a single month's statistics, which is a big issue with the title.

However, what the people in this thread (most of whom did not read the article) seem to be missing is that, despite the clickbait title, the author wasn't talking about a completely new system. He was talking about a hardware revision to a new model along the lines of a slim model.

Put simply, if Spencer is to perform a proper reset of the Xbox One brand and realign the console's focus on gaming, he's going to need a new console to do it. Not a generational console, but an Xbox One trimmed of all the fat. One that gets rid of everything apart from the core system hardware and a big fat hard-drive.


What the author is essentially saying is that Microsoft needs to get back to basics and focus on the Xbox One as a gaming system and that putting out a new model that does just that is one way to do it. It would also be a means of reintroducing the system to gamers without necessarily alienating them the way that a completely new console would do.
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#18MRL3G3NDPosted 8/1/2014 7:42:43 AM
looking at today's poll it's painfully obvious what needs to happen

they need to stop being cheap and develop a next gen game...

right now there is no reason to own a next gen system...or even a powerful pc...

it they released a game that blew peoples mind instead of the steady barrage of mobile ported arcade games maybe they could make some money

but they are too cheap and it has killed the current generation of gaming
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#19EllesarienPosted 8/1/2014 7:51:58 AM
Hehe...This week has been hard for some.


Don't worry...I am sure ND will post some TLOU 1-year remaster news to pick up your spirits :)
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#20Rancid_SkankPosted 8/1/2014 7:55:37 AM
Geist posted...
You people fall for the same topic every day. At this point I think you want to be trolled.


This. Blinded by an incessant need to defend a games console. This board wouldn't be half as bad if all the keyboard warriors didn't eat up every little piece of troll bait.
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