Do you think MS made a mistake making a media box that plays games rather than.

#11OpheliaAdenadePosted 8/22/2014 3:43:08 PM
skermac posted...
astutecollie posted...
Well its not a media machine with games secondary, it plays games just as well as any other system, its that the derp they had running xbox before launch thought it was smart to market it that way, but he was muscled out and phil spencer is a games first guy, and you can tell since he took over.

Right away they drop the price, remove kinect, and are promoting the hell out of their exclusives. And they have 2 big ones this holiday in sunset and halo mcc, while the ps4 only has lbp3, so hes doing what he needs to. He locked up tomb raider to go along with halo 5 next holiday which is huge, and their showing at gamescom was very impressive, while sony showed too many indies and were eaten alive in the media for it. It was just a ton of games for ms and little about features and system capabilities. Theyre gonna be just fine. This is their first holiday where they arent $100 more which killed them, the dead summer months are ending so youll see theyll do very well.


MS says it's a media console. They never say its a gaming console. They say its a do everything machine when they should push it as a gaming machine. I guess that's why they didn't give it as much power as the PS4 since its not primarily for games in their mind.


I'm honestly concerned about what will happen to collie when the PS4 outsells the xbone during the holiday season.
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#12MrXmedia(Topic Creator)Posted 8/22/2014 3:49:50 PM
MicrosoftLover posted...
Was TC trying to be cute or something?

You know, title saying one thing but topic being about another? Or is his writing skills not all there?

In any case...

WOMP WOMP.

Huh? I ran out of characters to use in my topic title . That was suppose to be an elipses at the end of the topic sorry for the confusion on your end.
#13quincy2000aPosted 8/22/2014 3:57:30 PM
I believe you are absolutely correct. As stated here, they put too large a focus on media/Kinect which is hurting the console side now that the Kinect has been pushed aside.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/22/we-purposefully-did-not-target-the-highest-end-graphics-says-microsoft-3804061/

The console can't present graphics as well as the PS4--even Microsoft admits that, regardless of what some posters here have said. Who are you going to believe in that situation, Microsoft or anonymous posters on a forum board?


http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2189993&p=1
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Microsoft Xbox One quote from May 2013 "We purposefully did not target the highest end graphics. We targeted it more as a broad entertainment player."
#14MrXmedia(Topic Creator)Posted 8/22/2014 4:02:37 PM
quincy2000a posted...
I believe you are absolutely correct. As stated here, they put too large a focus on media/Kinect which is hurting the console side now that the Kinect has been pushed aside.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/22/we-purposefully-did-not-target-the-highest-end-graphics-says-microsoft-3804061/

The console can't present graphics as well as the PS4--even Microsoft admits that, regardless of what some posters here have said. Who are you going to believe in that situation, Microsoft or anonymous posters on a forum board?


http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2189993&p=1


So essentially by demphasizing on the actual console aspect and pushing cloud based gaming is MS trying to kill off the traditional gaming console box?
#15MrXmedia(Topic Creator)Posted 8/22/2014 4:14:38 PM
MrXmedia posted...
quincy2000a posted...
I believe you are absolutely correct. As stated here, they put too large a focus on media/Kinect which is hurting the console side now that the Kinect has been pushed aside.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/22/we-purposefully-did-not-target-the-highest-end-graphics-says-microsoft-3804061/

The console can't present graphics as well as the PS4--even Microsoft admits that, regardless of what some posters here have said. Who are you going to believe in that situation, Microsoft or anonymous posters on a forum board?
Anyone wanna elaborate?

http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2189993&p=1


So essentially by demphasizing on the actual console aspect and pushing cloud based gaming is MS trying to kill off the traditional gaming console box?
#16quincy2000aPosted 8/22/2014 4:19:56 PM
MrXmedia posted...
quincy2000a posted...
I believe you are absolutely correct. As stated here, they put too large a focus on media/Kinect which is hurting the console side now that the Kinect has been pushed aside.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/22/we-purposefully-did-not-target-the-highest-end-graphics-says-microsoft-3804061/

The console can't present graphics as well as the PS4--even Microsoft admits that, regardless of what some posters here have said. Who are you going to believe in that situation, Microsoft or anonymous posters on a forum board?


http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2189993&p=1


So essentially by demphasizing on the actual console aspect and pushing cloud based gaming is MS trying to kill off the traditional gaming console box?


Can't be sure what their intent was--but the way Microsoft is triple stepping now to at least try and attain equal footing graphically with the PS4 this generation, I don't think the plan was to really push it this gen, maybe just introduce us to it.

This is interesting reading as is info on a company called ZUMA Games.

http://m.wpcentral.com/microsoft-research-delorean-cloud-gaming
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Microsoft Xbox One quote from May 2013 "We purposefully did not target the highest end graphics. We targeted it more as a broad entertainment player."
#17richboy900Posted 8/22/2014 4:29:29 PM
Yes, absolutely. But kinetic is also to blame.

Both Microsoft and Sony suffered the third console curse. The PS3 suffered from high price, bad choice of hardware and lack of games at launch. Psn was bad in it's early days compared to live.

The Xbox one is underpowered, cost more at launch than the more powerful ps4 and Microsoft handled the pr very badly.
#18scoobydoobydontPosted 8/22/2014 4:32:07 PM
No.
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#19daniel79Posted 8/22/2014 5:02:00 PM
I'm just glad i dont pay for Microsoft to advertise John lewis to me anymore.
#20elbarto1Posted 8/22/2014 6:29:04 PM
Xbox - Jack of all trades. Master of none.

PS4 - game console.

That's how I see it personally.
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