Dark Souls 2 should not have the option to invite friends

#1MC_Knight01Posted 4/19/2013 4:33:01 PM
I see talks about being able to party up with friends for Dark souls 2. This is a bad idea, here's why.

Invasions - The terrible dueling prospect that was invented in Dark Souls seems to be carrying over to Dark souls 2. Pvp is a huge deal with Dark Souls game. So much so that they've given us servers to play on. Invasions should be randomized. Invasions should neither be welcomed or expected. They should give the host a sense of fear and excitement! An invasions isn't something you plan and graciously fight your host!

Right now invading in Dark Souls has been watered down to people who don't want to fight anyone outside someone they know. Why? Well because they can set up their own bizaar rule sets so they can cater to their own fighting styles. This is not pvp, it's a gentlemens hand shake is what it is! If you're able to choose who you fight then that is going to block out everyone who wants to play invasions the way they were intended. Alienating people for the sole purpose of making Pvp "easy" for those select few.

Co-Op - Now you're probably thinking, grouping up with my friends to co-op should have been allowed in Dark Souls! Well you would be WRONG! Sure summoning our friends to help us does make sense, I won't argue with that. However the same problem persist with Co-op as invasions. Only summoning your friends is going to alienate people who are looking to be summoned. who are looking to summon others. Summoning should have a sense of euphoria! A sense of, "Look! A summon sign...praise the sun!" Not a bunch of people black crystaling back to their world waiting for their friends. With servers you can instruct your friends to be on the same server as you so increase the odds. That's good enough.

Lets not forget how easy it would make the game. Unless they redo the bosses to have something like x5 normal stats and HP with a summon, This is THE EASY MODE everyone did not want.

Final Thoughts - Should pvp and co-op be easier to do? Absolutely. I believe that FROMSOFT has understood this with dedicated severs, removing the humanity part of the game (or at least adjusting it) I also believe they will make the proper adjustments to co-op and pvp to have it more "accessible". and in a good way not an easy mode way. If you make it so it's easy to play with your friends or fight them it just leads everyone to want to do that instead of experience everyone else who plays the game. That is not Dark Souls.
---
The PvP Code: More like "guidelines" than actual rules
#2WiiareVenomPosted 4/19/2013 8:18:30 PM(edited)
Letting you invite people doesn't have to block randoms.

If people feel so strongly as you, they would still play with randoms alot even if the choice to summon friends was there.

Why not let people choose for themselves, instead of you choosing for them?
---
Join our bearded nation , our bearded population, our bearded operation. Its not an invitation, it is an expectation.
#3superchild211Posted 4/20/2013 6:31:46 AM
The way things worked in Demon Souls was perfectly fine, so hopefully they just go back to dedicated servers and leave it at that. You could just tell your friend to leave his sign in some obscure corner and summon him without any trouble. On the flip side, invading was a lot easier because you had access to everyone on the server, not the garbage matchmaking that Dark Souls had.
---
"Might controls everything, and without strength you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself."
#4Nick_Chaos007Posted 4/20/2013 9:47:16 AM
MC_Knight01 posted...
Right now invading in Dark Souls has been watered down to people who don't want to fight anyone outside someone they know. Why? Well because they can set up their own bizaar rule sets so they can cater to their own fighting styles. This is not pvp, it's a gentlemens hand shake is what it is! If you're able to choose who you fight then that is going to block out everyone who wants to play invasions the way they were intended. Alienating people for the sole purpose of making Pvp "easy" for those select few.


This completely sums up what is wrong with PvP...fight clubs. I thought it was a great idea and fun. Only to realize that these people set up their own rules and refuse to fight you unless you play by them. In otherwords it's like playing Monopoly and your opponent chooses the car and says everyone who plays the car gets $100,000 monopoly money and starts with boardwalk.

Invasions should never be anything different then invading people unexpectedly. Arena was..ok. It was honestly mediocre but they had the right idea in mind for a dueling system, work on that and leave invasions alone. Dark Souls is suppose to have a sense of loniless and desperation is the theme of the game...despair. If you want to party up with your friends. Go to the emptiest server and have them drop their summon sign.

good post, nailed pvp on the head.
---
Kill one man, You're a murderer. Kill 1,000 men, You're a king. Kill them all....and You're a god!
#5TwinmoldPosted 4/20/2013 7:49:37 PM
Waaaah, people want to play with their friends! We need to force these people to stop socialising with their friends and play with me! People who don't want to be invaded should be forced to be invaded!
---
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCptDecaf
#6Nick_Chaos007Posted 4/20/2013 8:28:48 PM
Twinmold posted...
People who don't want to be invaded should be forced to be invaded!


Yes. If you don't get that you don't get Dark Souls.
---
Kill one man, You're a murderer. Kill 1,000 men, You're a king. Kill them all....and You're a god!
#7MiKe345675Posted 4/21/2013 4:32:59 AM
[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]
#8MiKe345675Posted 4/21/2013 4:33:48 AM
MiKe345675 posted...
Nope your a piece of **** I have friend and I want to play with them gtfo


Jk
#9DJ_0000Posted 4/21/2013 4:58:28 AM
Probably not straight up match making but I feel it should be easier to summon the person you are looking for via RSS.
#10d3dsightPosted 4/21/2013 5:10:03 AM
Twinmold posted...
Waaaah, people want to play with their friends! We need to force these people to stop socialising with their friends and play with me! People who don't want to be invaded should be forced to be invaded!


Yeah. You're playing the wrong game.

Cumbersome to find your friends = working as intended