Bethesda & Bioware should learn from From Soft how to make good action WRPG

#1BPSatsukiPosted 4/2/2014 4:31:03 PM
Their RPGs (Skyrim, Dragon Age) are bland, uninteresting and have bad combat mechanic. All they do is to fluff their games with huge world, copy-and-paste dungeons and with tons of boring dialogue with boring NPC. They don't care about combat mechanic, enemy AI, environment mood and atmosphere

It's funny how a small Japanese developer manage to make better action WRPGs than these 2 well-known and well-funded RPG makers.
#2IngExBeinPosted 4/2/2014 4:31:45 PM
Too bad Souls isn't a "W" RPG.

Also, Dragon Age Origins at least contained one of the most robust fighting systems I've seen for games of that type.
#3Aka_NekoPosted 4/2/2014 4:33:05 PM
I personally really loved Skyrim, and had quite a bit of fun with it with all the hundreds of hours i put into it. DAO is one of my fave games of all time - ITS THAT GOOD. But Da2 dropped the ball and was crap.
#4MilleydPosted 4/2/2014 4:33:39 PM
Yeah, dunno how anyone likes Bethesda. Their big series hasn't been good since Daggerfall. Morrowind was at least playable but it was the start of a huge downfall from what was one of the best games ever.

Bioware is making their games too actiony. Mass Effect 1 was great but ehhh since that one. Dragon Age 1 was really good as well so I'm gonna wait for DA3 before I pass final judgment. The previews look really actiony as well but maybe the rest will make up for that.
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#5SolKarellenPosted 4/2/2014 4:34:15 PM
Bioware figured out the magic formula where adding in "choices" garners universal acclaim. These choices boil down to "Normal person" and "ass".

They've been reskinning KotOR for ages. DA:O is awful. ME2 wasn't enough Gears to be a shooter, not enough RPG to be a RPG...
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#6TeHaMbUrGlArPosted 4/2/2014 4:35:12 PM
Eh i enjoyed Mass Effect 2 and 3.
I agree that Bethesda can learn from the Souls games on how to make their games more challenging and rewarding.
#7James MasonPosted 4/2/2014 4:35:33 PM
I have a hard time believing Dark Souls is a "Western RPG". For one it's made in japan , so it would be a "JRPG".

Second, it's pretty far removed from a RPG. Real Time Combat, Third Person Action and Platforming, a barely present story, the only "RPG" aspect is having to allocate stat points... The rest qualifies as Action Adventure in my book.
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#8Captain_QwarkPosted 4/2/2014 4:35:53 PM
They're too busy rolling in millions upon millions to care about your horrible opinions. All 3 make fantastic games. Take your childish, elitist opinions elsewhere.
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#9peter_888Posted 4/2/2014 4:35:55 PM
well i wouldn't really agree about dragon age origin having boring characters and dialogue. and find the lore to be interesting enough. Heck, Even as much as I hate dragon age 2, I have to admit that the game dialogue can be really funny and witty when it wants to be. Though I might agree that the games might not have all that good combat mechaincs.
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#10Gwyns_BeardPosted 4/2/2014 4:35:56 PM
Elder Scrolls has never truly been about the combat. It's everything else. Amazing lore, great worlds, vibrant characters, fun quests. A bunch of junk like that.
Dragon Age: Origins was actually awesome. Never cared for 2. Being a mage was awesome in Origins. Virulent walking bomb all day, baby. 2op.
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