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HM idea

#1RoketomanPosted 1/21/2013 4:45:13 PM
What if HMs become a 5th move that isn't accessible in battle. We could finally say goodbye to HM Slaves. Emancipation for all the Pokémon!
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#2Octaivian_RexPosted 1/21/2013 4:45:51 PM
One of the few ideas that this board repeats endlessly that isn't horrible.
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#3squdgyPosted 1/21/2013 4:46:28 PM
Problem is that some HM's are actually useful in battle (Surf, Waterfall). Wouldn't you want to use those?
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#4FireYetiPosted 1/21/2013 4:46:35 PM
Honestly, just making them forgettable at any time is all I really want.
#5hunter994xPosted 1/21/2013 4:47:34 PM
FireYeti posted...
Honestly, just making them forgettable at any time is all I really want.


Seconded.
#6Octaivian_RexPosted 1/21/2013 4:47:47 PM
From: squdgy | #003
Problem is that some HM's are actually useful in battle (Surf, Waterfall). Wouldn't you want to use those?

Well then you just overwrite one of the regular moves instead of putting it in the 5th slot.
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#7koopabros64Posted 1/21/2013 4:47:49 PM
From: squdgy | #003
Problem is that some HM's are actually useful in battle (Surf, Waterfall). Wouldn't you want to use those?


This.
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#8zxqqxzPosted 1/21/2013 4:48:11 PM
FireYeti posted...
Honestly, just making them forgettable at any time is all I really want.


What would happen if you deleted Surf while surfing?
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#9Zarren364Posted 1/21/2013 4:51:57 PM
zxqqxz posted...
FireYeti posted...
Honestly, just making them forgettable at any time is all I really want.


What would happen if you deleted Surf while surfing?


White out and wake up at the Pokecenter.

Or they'll put up blocks for it. Like in R/S/E, you couldn't erase surf from a pokemon unless you taught a second pokemon that move. I'm assuming they also prevented you from releasing them too unless that condition was met.
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#10VampLordAdamaruPosted 1/21/2013 4:52:39 PM
I've actually proposed an idea several times, and people generally seem to think it would be good, so I'll copy-pasta it here:

As it stands, we currently can only have four moves on a Pokemon. I think a new system wherein Pokemon retain their previously-learned moves, but only have a limited move set, say 4, just like it currently is, that can be used in battle. We’ll call this the Active Move Set (or AMS, for short). Now, you’re probably thinking “How does this differ from what we have now?” Well, here’s the answer: They also have access to all the Moves they’ve previously learned outside of battle (Cut, Flash, Sweet Scent, etc.), via their Passive Move Pool (or PMP, for short). (I was going to call it the Passive Move Set, but the acronym… Yeah… “Pool” it is…)

Further, while you are at a PokeCenter, you have the option of swapping out Moves in the AMS (say, from a PC) with any Move that Pokemon has learned. You go into the menu, select the Pokemon, and select a Move. You will then be given an option to swap out that Move for another one from the PMP.

This system would allow for the elimination of an HM/TM Slave, or, if they are still necessary as an HM/TM Slave, it would still allow that Pokemon to have a battle-viable Move Set, without an HM/TM wasting a valuable AMS slot.

Obviously, new Moves that you gain via level-up would still replace a Move in the AMS, and you couldn’t switch it back out until you reached a PokeCenter. If, however, you choose NOT to learn that Move at the time of leveling up, or if you don’t evolve your Pokemon until a certain level so they can learn a Move they don’t learn until after their usual evolution-level but sacrificing another Move they would learn had they evolved at their usual level, you would be required to visit a Move Tutor to learn that Move.

So, for example, let’s say you want to an unevolved Pokemon to learn a Move that they don’t learn until Level 30, but they evolve at 25, AND their evolved form learns a different Move at Level 26, to get that Level 26 Move, you would have to visit a Move Tutor.

(Does that all make sense? I know there are a few run-ons there, but I tried to keep it fairly clear…)

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