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One of every Pokemon in existence vs. the Justice League and the Avengers.

#401wind64aPosted 3/4/2013 8:45:02 AM
TheRealKal-El posted...
LOL, Why are Pokefans arguing that Dialga gets to stop time?

Guess what? Flash can do that too. He can steal the speed of every Pokemon and turn them into statues. And since he thinks faster than them and he knows he can do that, he'll do it before Dialga stops time or whatever.


The current arguement is that using prerecognition, which some Pokemon do have, Dailga sets it up so that the exact point in which the JL and Avengers enter whatever universe in which the battle takes place, Time itself is stopped for said groups. Essentially it's whether or not the Flash can be bound BEFORE he can reach a speed beyond that of Light. That or whether or not Jirachi would randomly decide to grant the Flash's wish and make its own allies loose for some reason...even though either side could do so if that was the case.
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#402CakeOfLiesPosted 3/4/2013 8:54:44 AM
wind64a posted...
TheRealKal-El posted...
LOL, Why are Pokefans arguing that Dialga gets to stop time?

Guess what? Flash can do that too. He can steal the speed of every Pokemon and turn them into statues. And since he thinks faster than them and he knows he can do that, he'll do it before Dialga stops time or whatever.


The current arguement is that using prerecognition, which some Pokemon do have, Dailga sets it up so that the exact point in which the JL and Avengers enter whatever universe in which the battle takes place, Time itself is stopped for said groups. Essentially it's whether or not the Flash can be bound BEFORE he can reach a speed beyond that of Light. That or whether or not Jirachi would randomly decide to grant the Flash's wish and make its own allies loose for some reason...even though either side could do so if that was the case.


Even if any of the superheroes can take out a Pokemon, Arceus could just remake Mew, Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina and Mew can remake any other Pokemon.
The Pokes just need to protect Arceus and Mew (easy when you consider some of the Pokemon) and there's no way the JL or Avengers could possibly win.

And anything the Flash tries can be blocked with Quick Guard. Or Anything with Extremespeed would outspeed him.
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#403Nerwrax15Posted 3/4/2013 9:27:31 AM
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Main supporter got modded. That means Pokemon wins.


That means someone on the Pokemon side is scared of me enough to get me modded. Even though I haven't thrown a single insult since i've been here. I got modded, because I was offensive, towards the imaginary animals......okay.
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#404Nerwrax15Posted 3/4/2013 9:29:54 AM
taex posted...
Gengar uses Destiny Bond on Flash.

/topic


Then any other member can kill him instead of Flash. Namely Thor whose "weather effects" can indirectly kill them.
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#405Nerwrax15Posted 3/4/2013 9:33:25 AM
Adiroth posted...
Speed of light is slower than the speed of thought. Arceus wills flash out of existence. Done.


.............The Flash can move faster than the speed thought and comprehension. Flash kills Arceus(and all the other pokemon for that matter) before he can think. Of anything.
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#406NinjaKitsunePosted 3/4/2013 9:41:23 AM
From: Nerwrax15 | #386
NinjaKitsune posted...
From: Nerwrax15 | #381
NinjaKitsune posted...
From: Nerwrax15 | #378
THE. FLASH. IS. NOT. BOUND. BY. ANY. ALTERATIONS. IN. TIME. DO. YOU. GET. THAT?

Straws? Its a pokemon. When's the last time you seen a pokemon that doesn't have a defined intellect form a strategy like that?

And the fact that you are trying to dictate what it can do the even though it has never shown that kind of scale in power..

You're fighting Feats and Facts with "He COULD do this stuff because the dex SAYS so, so im gonna twist it any which way I feel like.".


You're babbling at this point, as far as the whole intelligence thing goes. And I'm not twisting anything. The dex entry pretty much gives me free reign (Again, what part of absolute control don't you understand?).

But you know what? I'm tired of arguing with someone who won't listen, so f*** it. Someone wishes on Jirachi that the pokemon win. Jirachi can grant any wish, ergo he can grant this one. Game. Set. F***ing match. And no, there's no stopping the wish being asked for because that would contradict the wish.


I can roll with that. one of the Speedsters reach Jirachi first and wish that the heroes win. since you know, Dialga can't control the Flash(can't control someone your rules don't apply too, that simple enough for ya?)


Actually, let's address that bit about The Flash. You seem to be assuming that just because regular space-time doesn't apply to him that the same would hold of Dialga's time manipulations. That's kind of like saying that an astronaut is immune to gravity just because they can escape the earth's gravitational field.

And frankly I'm dubious about it in the first place. It's equally likely you're severely exaggerating just how far this ability stretches.

Either way, Jirachi's going to grant the pokemon side wish no matter who gets there first. Because Jirachi is not an idiot.


The Flash can change his perception of time as well not just his speed. He can increase/decrease as he needs to. I doubt Dialga's power is on 24/7. He needs to activate it. Thats the biggest problem with this topic. There are no specifics to it. And the astronaut Analogy doesn't work here because the flash isn't affected by time not because he runs really fast, its because of the speedforce. So in the astronaut's case, if he is on earth or in space, he can defy gravity.

And jirachi grants ANY wish.


Can grant any wish. And you might as well have said "He's immune because I said so" in this topic. So if that's the way we're playing I'm going to say Dialga can negate his immunity because I said so. And I'm still waiting on any proof that this is actually a thing, because I can't find anything about it. I at least have a pokedex entry.

Also, you completely missed the point of my analogy. The point was there's a difference between being unaffected by spacetime in the real world, being affected by a space-time manipulator, and being affected by one of the pokemon that created the f***ing universe.

In summary: Jirachi still isn't an idiot and proof plz.
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#407Nerwrax15Posted 3/4/2013 9:42:52 AM
CakeOfLies posted...
wind64a posted...
TheRealKal-El posted...
LOL, Why are Pokefans arguing that Dialga gets to stop time?

Guess what? Flash can do that too. He can steal the speed of every Pokemon and turn them into statues. And since he thinks faster than them and he knows he can do that, he'll do it before Dialga stops time or whatever.


The current arguement is that using prerecognition, which some Pokemon do have, Dailga sets it up so that the exact point in which the JL and Avengers enter whatever universe in which the battle takes place, Time itself is stopped for said groups. Essentially it's whether or not the Flash can be bound BEFORE he can reach a speed beyond that of Light. That or whether or not Jirachi would randomly decide to grant the Flash's wish and make its own allies loose for some reason...even though either side could do so if that was the case.





Even if any of the superheroes can take out a Pokemon, Arceus could just remake Mew, Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina and Mew can remake any other Pokemon.
The Pokes just need to protect Arceus and Mew (easy when you consider some of the Pokemon) and there's no way the JL or Avengers could possibly win.

And anything the Flash tries can be blocked with Quick Guard. Or Anything with Extremespeed would outspeed him.


Except the flash can kill them, all at the same time. no pokemon could protect any othef pokemon from the flash, or any of the heroes. And here we go with the game mechanics. The Flash can hit them before they can pull off a single move, and LOL at extremespeed being faster than the flash.
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#408BurningFlareXPosted 3/4/2013 9:44:42 AM
How is Flash gonna kill anything anyway? Punch them? He's gonna punch steel and rock types? Ghosts? Dialga? Arceus? He wouldn't even tickle them. He'd probably get paused by Dialga if he tries to reach that "infinite mass" thing I've heard about.
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#409Nerwrax15Posted 3/4/2013 9:56:58 AM
BurningFlareX posted...
How is Flash gonna kill anything anyway? Punch them? He's gonna punch steel and rock types? Ghosts? Dialga? Arceus? He wouldn't even tickle them. He'd probably get paused by Dialga if he tries to reach that "infinite mass" thing I've heard about.


He can go into(and beyond) lightspeed to use the infinite mass punch INSTANTLY. much faster than Dialga can think to use its power. Doesn't matter what type the pokemon is except maybe ghost, the "force of a white dwarf star" will do more than tickle them.
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#410BurningFlareXPosted 3/4/2013 9:59:36 AM
Whatever. You guys are just like nostalgia dudes, going all "THE ORIGINAL 150 ARE TEH BEST!". Neither of you accept anything else, other than what you believe.
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