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#1WindyligthPosted 4/12/2013 5:05:49 AM
Theodore (Machamp) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- DynamicPunch
- Rock Slide
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Amenhotep (Dusknoir) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Earthquake
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp
- Trick Room

Dido (Cresselia) (F) @ Ligth Clay
Trait: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 96 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 156 Def
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Trick Room
- Reflect
- Ice Beam
- Ligth Screen

Francis Galton (Granbull) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Quick Feet
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Crunch
- Ice Punch
- Thunder
- Earthquake

Taft (Tangrowth) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Sleep Powder
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Protect

Marcus Aurelius (Bronzong) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 126 SDef / 252 HP / 130 Def
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic
- Hypnosis

Copypasted straight from showdown.

I'm new to the UU metagame, what should I be expecting?
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#2TherianReturnsPosted 4/12/2013 5:12:51 AM
0/10
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#3KeeperOfShadowsPosted 4/12/2013 6:31:37 AM
Three thumbs down.

Its terrible, maybe, I don't know.

But now I won't die!!
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#4Windyligth(Topic Creator)Posted 4/12/2013 6:36:44 AM
Come one guys, let's be serious for a second here.

If you don't like it, tell me what I could be doing better.
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#5pokemonfreak97Posted 4/12/2013 6:45:53 AM
Windyligth posted...
Theodore (Machamp) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- DynamicPunch
- Rock Slide
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Amenhotep (Dusknoir) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Earthquake
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp
- Trick Room

Dido (Cresselia) (F) @ Ligth Clay
Trait: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 96 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 156 Def
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Trick Room
- Reflect
- Ice Beam
- Ligth Screen

Francis Galton (Granbull) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Quick Feet
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Crunch
- Ice Punch
- Thunder
- Earthquake

Taft (Tangrowth) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Sleep Powder
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Protect

Marcus Aurelius (Bronzong) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 126 SDef / 252 HP / 130 Def
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic
- Hypnosis

Copypasted straight from showdown.

I'm new to the UU metagame, what should I be expecting?


Well, some questions I have:

A) Which one(s) do you usually plan to lead with? Is it just "not Tangrowth, Granbull, or Machamp" or is it a specific Trick Room user?

B) You seem to have a lot of inaccurate moves (Hypnosis, Toxic to an extent, Focus Blast, Thunder, (but nothing on Machamp counts due to No Guard)). You do know both that it's Gravity, not Trick Room that increases accuracy and that No Guard only works when the ability user is either the attacker or the one hit by the attack, right? If so, how do you plan to use all of these moves?

C) Just a technical question: does Gyro Ball still work the same way in Trick Room? It doesn't affect the Speed stats, just the order, but it could affect Gyro Ball; I could see them doing that.

I'm not actually an expert on any of the metagames; I can tell you that Machamp's 100% accurate DynamicPunch will be an asset, and that if you can get enough set up, it could be good; you have strong moves and good type coverage as far as I see. You might want to get someone else for the actual team viability.

I give this team an eight.

Out of what? It could be ten, it could be five, it could be one hundred, it could be eight for all you know. But dying didn't sound fun, so I decided to rate it.
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#6Windyligth(Topic Creator)Posted 4/12/2013 7:02:27 AM
Thank you so much for actually being helpful

I plan to lead with Cresselia and Tangrowth/Machamp, set up TR and then get a dual screen going.

I might get Dusknoir to have gravity if accuracy becomes an issue, but so far it hasn't. I was an idiot to put thunder on a physical Granbull, so I switched it to Close Combat after a few battles.

I'm considering forgoing Granbull for a Choice Banded Rhyperion, but I dunno yet.

Also, since showdown doesn't have a UU doubles (wtf, showdown), I can delve into OU if I need to.

Gyro Ball does indeed work the same way; it just goes first this time.

Thanks for replying, I won't kill you now ;)

Also, if anyone's interested, here's a test run: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-smogondoubles-14546863. Almost lost, but came back at the end.
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#7pafbonkPosted 4/12/2013 7:11:03 AM
6/10:

1-Dusknoir is terrible. Use eviolite Duclops.

2-Your Machamp is good.

3-Why use both Cresselia and Bronzong? They're both psychic walls.
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#8Windyligth(Topic Creator)Posted 4/12/2013 7:17:24 AM
1) Duly noted

2) Thank you sir.

3) It was either another Psychic or another Ghost
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#93PiesAndAForkPosted 4/12/2013 7:23:40 AM
At first I was like "how is this a Team Rocket team? Where's the Arbok and Meowth?" Then I saw trick room.
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#10pokemonzeroPosted 4/12/2013 8:58:07 AM
Windyligth posted...
Theodore (Machamp) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- DynamicPunch
- Rock Slide
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Amenhotep (Dusknoir) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Earthquake
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp
- Trick Room

Dido (Cresselia) (F) @ Ligth Clay
Trait: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 96 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 156 Def
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Trick Room
- Reflect
- Ice Beam
- Ligth Screen

Francis Galton (Granbull) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Quick Feet
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Crunch
- Ice Punch
- Thunder
- Earthquake

Taft (Tangrowth) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Sleep Powder
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Protect

Marcus Aurelius (Bronzong) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 126 SDef / 252 HP / 130 Def
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic
- Hypnosis

Copypasted straight from showdown.

I'm new to the UU metagame, what should I be expecting?


1-Evolite Dusclops is a lot better than Dusknoir

2- Sableye would be good on this team since you can Duel Screen and it has no weaknesses

3- If you want ultimate cheap put a toxic shuckle on your team(Shuckle is a tank with low speed) combine Shuckle with Duel screen
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