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Would anyone be up for.... (new gen idea)

#1Mewtwo_soulPosted 4/18/2013 9:20:45 PM
Moves that can be more than one type, HOWEVER, (read this first before commenting) they can only be of one element at a time:


What I mean is, what if Explosion could be Normal/Fire type. However, when actually using Explosion it can only be either a fire type move or a normal type move. (the moves typing is preset before the actual match, as in when it is taught it asks which typing you'd prefer the move to be, fire or normal in such a hypothetical case)

This way certain Pokemon can get some decent stab boosts or some moves that would heavily benefit them for coverage in case certain moves leave them easily walled, or allow more coverage or just some moves would become overall better.

Of course not every move would obtain a dual typing, but it would be open for a specific amount.

What if also certain weather elements had an effect on move typings as well.

IE: While hail is active, Water type moves instantly turn into ice type moves./etc?
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#2stranksyPosted 4/18/2013 9:24:01 PM
Weather effecting move types: No.
The rest of it: Even more no.
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#3Mewtwo_soul(Topic Creator)Posted 4/18/2013 9:29:13 PM(edited)
stranksy posted...
Weather effecting move types: No.
The rest of it: Even more no.


At least hand an explanation as to why no.

As far as I can see it wouldn't hurt anything.


Edit: And for why I'd want the first idea:

Movepool expansion to certain Pokemon that lack specific type moves (which ruins their usage in competitive) or expanding their coverage in competitive. Finally ____ (insert NU here) has some coverage? RU for sure!
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#4LightningAce11Posted 4/18/2013 9:38:49 PM(edited)
stranksy posted...
Weather effecting move types: No.
The rest of it: Even more no.


This. The dual type move idea is stupid, because its confusing, and a lot of moves will not work, or become broken.
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#5Thepenguinking2Posted 4/18/2013 9:41:35 PM
Great idea!
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#6SpacePirateKhanPosted 4/18/2013 9:48:00 PM(edited)
Having some new moves (and maybe retrofitting a few old ones) to change type based on the Weather would be cool. I think Castform already tries to do this? Definitely not as an "all Water moves turn to Ice type" kind of effect though, just certain moves designed for this purpose.

Edit:
Maybe also a Pokemon that's able to turn all moves it uses into a certain type, either based on Weather or based on the first move used or something else. You could get STAB on a wider set of moves, at the cost of type diversity.
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#7Mewtwo_soul(Topic Creator)Posted 4/18/2013 9:45:17 PM(edited)
LightningAce11 posted...
stranksy posted...
Weather effecting move types: No.
The rest of it: Even more no.


This. The dual type move idea is stupid, because its confusing, and a lot of moves will not work, or become broken.


How do they become broken.

Very few moves would get a dual type, and it is not complex.

It can be either 2 types. However, at any given time the move can only be ONE OF THOSE TWO types.

So for instance, if you have Snorlax with Explosion. It can either be Normal (boosting stab but less Pokemon to hit for neutral/less resistances) or you can have it be Fire type upon teaching it to said Pokemon which would make more Pokemon take at least neutral damage, and very few would really be at an utter loss due to this.

On that note: Name one move that makes sense to have a possible dual typing that would be broken. I see nothing that would do that.

Edit: It would also help those who have to depend on Hidden Power just to get specific coverages for a certain move.
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#8LightningAce11Posted 4/18/2013 9:48:04 PM
Mewtwo_soul posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
stranksy posted...
Weather effecting move types: No.
The rest of it: Even more no.


This. The dual type move idea is stupid, because its confusing, and a lot of moves will not work, or become broken.


How do they become broken.

Very few moves would get a dual type, and it is not complex.

It can be either 2 types. However, at any given time the move can only be ONE OF THOSE TWO types.

So for instance, if you have Snorlax with Explosion. It can either be Normal (boosting stab but less Pokemon to hit for neutral/less resistances) or you can have it be Fire type upon teaching it to said Pokemon which would make more Pokemon take at least neutral damage, and very few would really be at an utter loss due to this.

On that note: Name one move that makes sense to have a possible dual typing that would be broken. I see nothing that would do that.

Edit: It would also help those who have to depend on Hidden Power just to get specific coverages for a certain move.


It's good the way it is. Why do you want to change it?
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#9Mewtwo_soul(Topic Creator)Posted 4/18/2013 9:50:41 PM
LightningAce11 posted...
Mewtwo_soul posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
stranksy posted...
Weather effecting move types: No.
The rest of it: Even more no.


This. The dual type move idea is stupid, because its confusing, and a lot of moves will not work, or become broken.


How do they become broken.

Very few moves would get a dual type, and it is not complex.

It can be either 2 types. However, at any given time the move can only be ONE OF THOSE TWO types.

So for instance, if you have Snorlax with Explosion. It can either be Normal (boosting stab but less Pokemon to hit for neutral/less resistances) or you can have it be Fire type upon teaching it to said Pokemon which would make more Pokemon take at least neutral damage, and very few would really be at an utter loss due to this.

On that note: Name one move that makes sense to have a possible dual typing that would be broken. I see nothing that would do that.

Edit: It would also help those who have to depend on Hidden Power just to get specific coverages for a certain move.


It's good the way it is. Why do you want to change it?



By that logic, Pokemon RBY: Special shouldn't have branched out to Special Attack and defense.

New types should have never been introduced, Infinite TMS was not needed, Physical/Special Split was irrelevant.

As I mentioned before this kind of change could steadily improve certain Pokemon in competitive. It's not hard to figure out (in the Dual type move thing, not the weather, that was just a string along idea) that if more coverage for certain Pokemon becomes available (outside of Hidden Power) then more oppertunities will advance from said thing.

Explosion being a Fire type could easily make certain Pokemon more useful. Now you have a Pokemon that won't instantly have any Ghost Pokemon out to take it, thus making sure it at least does something.
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#10xthunder7283Posted 4/18/2013 9:55:10 PM
Here's to quick attack becoming Dark!
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