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Is Meganium undisputedly the worst starter ever?

#61TheZuperHeroPosted 4/24/2013 5:25:33 AM
Shadow Flare13 posted...
Why do people even bother mentioning Emboar as the worst? He absolutely stomps faces in-game. Great movepool and variety and yeah, he sucks competitively, but so do a couple of the other starters and at least Emboar can say he is good in-game. Are there better Fire options? Yeah, but Volcarona and Darmanitan aren't the easiest to raise in-game either.

I was going to cite Emboar in this topic merely as a defense against the claim that Meganium has the worst design - Emboar looks terrible. Just . . just awful.
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#62NeoFalconHavokPosted 4/24/2013 5:26:28 AM
Torterra is too slow to be useful.
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#63Grammar_manPosted 4/24/2013 5:47:16 AM
Rook_the_Ranger posted...
Just because Meganium doesn't get picked because he has good competition doesn't mean he's bad.


1. Gen II starters are the overall worst in competitive play.
2. Gen II's other starters were worse than the in-game than other gens.

So no.

As for being the worst, it may arguably still be better than serperior(though they do fill different functions- fast support mon vs ScreenCleric), though the very moment Serperior gets contrary available, only Torterra will hang out with Megs in NU.
#64HejiruPosted 4/24/2013 5:51:46 AM
Hell no. It's a dinosaur with a flower around its neck. You don't get any better than that.

I know they're not good competitively, but the Chikorita family is one of my favorites design-wise.
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#65mehmetskiPosted 4/24/2013 5:53:31 AM
i love meganium, its one of my all time favorite pokemon
i love all the johto starters!
meganiums typing is not that bad, it hast many weaknesses,
but some of those types have very few strong attacks (bug, poison, flying)
so its not all that bad.
the moves are really cool, i love synthesis, petal dance, body slam...
in-game, meganium is really cool, and only in-game counts to me
#66pokemonfreak97Posted 4/24/2013 6:00:35 AM
I need to clarify; about Serperior, of course I meant sans Contrary, which all legitimate Serperior now are.
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#67Capitan_KidPosted 4/24/2013 6:03:17 AM
Hydra_Gundam_ posted...
I thought people said Blastoise was useless.

Lmao. It's the best
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#68Grammar_manPosted 4/24/2013 6:15:32 AM
Best Starter for BW in-game is Samurott, if simply for easy HM access and good offensive stats. Darmanitan makes Emboar pointless after the third gym while it is outdone by Sawk for the second, and Timburr->Gurdurr handles both those early gyms better, and Serperior is fighting uphill.

BW2... Really, all of the starters are dumpworthy out of the bag due to the ridiculously good other early mons.
Azumarill is available with Aqua Tail at L21.
Riolu takes care of fighting needs.
Magnemite takes care of all things Azumarill doesn't that Serperior would want to do.
Magby, while not great, beats out Emboar as far as early fire is needed(essentially for Burgh, but not really) until you get Darmy again.
#69CharizardFirePosted 4/24/2013 6:17:48 AM
From: Grammar_man | #063
1. Gen II starters are the overall worst in competitive play.

That would be Gen V starters.
#70D_BartPosted 4/24/2013 8:24:02 AM
Grammar_man posted...

1. Gen II starters are the overall worst in competitive play.
2. Gen II's other starters were worse than the in-game than other gens.

That would be Gen V, in both cases. Especially in-game.