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why does smogon say weavile is terrible?

#1SteaIth_RockPosted 4/24/2013 8:29:41 AM
it can check major psychics/ghost in celebi, latios, starmie, latias, gengar, alakazam, espeon

ice shard is still good to kill stuff like dragonite, landorus, salamence, Garchomp,

its very viable
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#2_KGC_Posted 4/24/2013 8:33:21 AM
I wouldn't call it terrible or outclasses, it just has a good niche in the current metagame.
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#3CakeOfLiesPosted 4/24/2013 8:33:22 AM
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It doesn't.
Weavile is in UU and viable in OU.
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#4AurawhispererPosted 4/24/2013 8:44:49 AM
Smogon doesnt like assassin type pokes
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#5Great_ReapettePosted 4/24/2013 8:46:03 AM(edited)
Because it takes 25% damage from you, TC.
It's why Chairzard is NU, but less extreme.
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#6pokemonfreak97Posted 4/24/2013 8:48:34 AM
UU analysis: "Weavile finds itself in a solid position in UU as both a set-up sweeper and physical attacker"

OU analysis: "For most of its existence, Weavile has generally been regarded as a niche Pokemon. This has not changed in Black and White. Fortunately for Weavile, its niche skills are readily in demand"

VGC 2012 analysis: "Weavile is the fastest Fake Out user in VGC 12, and its STAB moves also OHKO many offensive threats. Unfortunately, its below-average defenses and weaknesses to two of the most common priority attacks, Mach Punch and Bullet Punch, prevent Weavile from completely dominating the scene."

So in other words, it's a good Pokémon that's weak to priority--not a good trait for a fragile, speedy Pokémon.
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#7scrappybristolPosted 4/24/2013 8:52:05 AM
Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, and Stealth Rock.
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#8noobody1Posted 4/24/2013 8:54:56 AM
I'm tired of people telling bulls**** against smogon.

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/

Here. You are free to try using weavile and prove them wrong.
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#9NeoFalconHavokPosted 4/24/2013 9:11:58 AM
Because you honestly have to listen to Smogon, of all things.
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#10LenneValkiryePosted 4/24/2013 9:52:01 AM
Smogon hates ice-types not named Mamoswine. It's a well known fact.