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Battle Frontier vs Pokemon World Tournament

#1bretonftwPosted 4/24/2013 9:00:28 AM
Which do you prefer? - Results (34 votes)
Battle Frontier
64.71% (22 votes)
22
Pokemon World tournament
35.29% (12 votes)
12
This poll is now closed.
PWT sucks. Where's my Battle Factory/Arcade?
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#2KitschgardenerPosted 4/24/2013 9:01:28 AM
Frontier, easily, for the wealth of variety. PWT is just glorified trainer rematches.
#3CakeOfLiesPosted 4/24/2013 9:03:28 AM
Ehh... I voted PWT without any thought.
If I had to choose one, I'd go for Frontier (even though that would mean I never get BP again...), but I would like both.
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#4Gray_AreasPosted 4/24/2013 9:05:33 AM(edited)
Can we just get a PWT facility in the Battle Frontier? It's just a redesigned Battle Dome after all.

EDIT: Why not a Battle Dome that can act similarly to the Battle Dome in the Emerald Battle Frontier, but also can be used like the PWT? So the PWT would be a separate affair that wouldn't affect your Battle Dome streak?
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#5SlimeStackPosted 4/24/2013 9:04:12 AM
I felt that PWT handed out more BP easily and playing it with rotation battles was very fun. Reducing the BP costs of prizes and having the TMs be a permanent buy were great too.

I guess a Gen V or VI Battle Frontier would include both those enhancements though without cutting out battle modes though, so BF.
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#6P0k3m0nWaRR10R8Posted 4/24/2013 9:06:09 AM
Gray_Areas posted...
Can we just get a PWT facility in the Battle Frontier? It's just a redesigned Battle Dome after all.

EDIT: Why not a Battle Dome that can act similarly to the Battle Dome in the Emerald Battle Frontier, but also can be used like the PWT? So the PWT would be a separate affair that wouldn't affect your Battle Dome streak?

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#7ClassyOldHatPosted 4/24/2013 9:09:47 AM
bretonftw posted...
PWT sucks. Where's my Battle Factory/Arcade?


Your battle Factory is in the Rental Masters section. It's as luck-based and annoying as it ever has been.

Anything that lacks the abomination that was the Battle Palace (AKA, "LOL your pokemon decided to use attacks that had no effect on the foe, while the foe "randomly" picked super effective moves all the time.") is good in my book.
#8ColtCababaPosted 4/24/2013 9:10:44 AM
Frontier has new opponents and different venues for unique battles. Plus, they give out buttloads of BP. And the awesome as always Battle Factory.

PWT sucks donkey balls. It gives out 3 f***in' BP. Bulls***.
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#9KitschgardenerPosted 4/24/2013 9:11:44 AM
From: Gray_Areas | #004
Can we just get a PWT facility in the Battle Frontier? It's just a redesigned Battle Dome after all.


Thing is, PWT deals with whom you battle and the Frontier deals with how. Random Gentlemen, Veterans, etc. have all very varied Pokémon while the type specialists are sitting with Pokémon of their speciality type (and the Champions with the small predictable set of Pokémon they use). I suggest the type specialists, Champions, whatever should all make cameos in Frontier streaks, seeing as a dedicated facility for them would be overshadowed totally.

From: SlimeStack | #005
I felt that PWT handed out more BP easily and playing it with rotation battles was very fun. Reducing the BP costs of prizes and having the TMs be a permanent buy were great too.

I guess a Gen V or VI Battle Frontier would include both those enhancements though without cutting out battle modes though, so BF.


The reduced prices are great, I suppose, for mass purchasing, and the Gen V TMs are permanent anyhoo so that'd make it much more user-friendly.
#10ClassyOldHatPosted 4/24/2013 11:50:25 AM(edited)
ColtCababa posted...
Frontier has new opponents and different venues for unique battles. Plus, they give out buttloads of BP. And the awesome as always Battle Factory.

PWT sucks donkey balls. It gives out 3 f***in' BP. Bulls***.


Really? REALLY? So, going through seven battles at a time for 1/3/5 BP depending on the facility (Which SLOWLY increases the higher your streak goes), is better than receiving 3 BP for three battles, or in World Leaders or Champion's mode, receiving as many BP as you have Pokemon alive at the end of each round, giving a minimum of 3 BP per streak of 3, and a maximum of 9 in singles, 12 in doubles and rotation, and 18 in Triples?

So let's see, you get 3 BP for the first two rounds of the Battle Tower's seven battles, then 20 BP for the Frontier Brain fight; after 21 consecutive wins, you've earned 26 BP.

Let's assume you're not great at the World leaders and get Six BP every round of 3 battles. After 21 battles there, you've done 7 rounds, and received 42 BP, (Which, incidentally goes much farther in the PWT shop than the Battle Frontier shops). Even if you get the minimum amount from 21 consecutive wins, you've still got 21 BP, which is just barely less than the Tower's payout (and unlike the Tower, said payout will be consistent; it's not until you've streaked above 50-somthing that you start getting more BP than battles, and even then, it maxes out at a 10/7 ratio, unlike the PWT's potential 9/3.)

I can understand disliking the PWT's lack of variety. And though I'm happy to see luck-based nonsense like the Battle Arcade and Palace go (the factory, as I mentioned in an earlier post, sadly lives on in Rental mode, so if you need a fix of being told to fight competent opponents with special sweeping Gyrados and similar wastes of space, go ahead.), I can see why some would appreciate the variety they provided. (And I'll grudgingly admit there were some good facilities too.)

But to complain about the PWT because of BP payout? Sorry, but the math there literally does not add up unless you are somehow better at keeping 100+ streaks in the (Double Team and Quick-Claw-OHKO abusing) Frontier than keeping most of the Pokemon in your party alive through three battles.