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Is RNGing for exactly what you want legit?

#1CakeOfLiesPosted 5/2/2013 5:42:41 AM
Poll titles are stupid. - Results (81 votes)
Yes. It's in the programming.
41.98% (34 votes)
34
Ehh... Kinda, but I can see why some people think otherwise.
24.69% (20 votes)
20
Not really, but at least I'm still doing some work for what I want.
1.23% (1 votes)
1
Not at all. It's using outside tools to exploit the game's programming.
11.11% (9 votes)
9
No, but I understand why some people do it.
12.35% (10 votes)
10
It's even worse than using an AR!
1.23% (1 votes)
1
Yes. For other reasons.
1.23% (1 votes)
1
No. For other reasons.
1.23% (1 votes)
1
Indifferent.
4.94% (4 votes)
4
This poll is now closed.
I've seen a lot of debates about this so I want to know where most people stand on the matter.

IMO, it isn't legit, but I understand why some people do it. It DOES save time.
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#2CakeOfLies(Topic Creator)Posted 5/2/2013 5:49:13 AM
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#3KeeperOfShadowsPosted 5/2/2013 5:58:11 AM
No more/less legit than Pokegen or AR, imo.
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#4Lone_HunterPosted 5/2/2013 5:59:32 AM
KeeperOfShadows posted...
No more/less legit than Pokegen or AR, imo.


I agree with the Pokegen part, not the AR part of your statement. AR alters game coding where RNG and Pokegen do not.
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#5CakeOfLies(Topic Creator)Posted 5/2/2013 6:56:29 AM
Interesting results so far...
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#6Xavier_On_HighPosted 5/2/2013 7:09:27 AM
Yes, and people who think otherwise either don't understand what RNGing is, or have a hopelessly narrow standard for what they consider "legit".
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#7RunebogglePosted 5/2/2013 7:10:36 AM
After taking a semester of C++ and understanding exactly how an RNG works, I voted yes.
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#8Decon082Posted 5/2/2013 7:48:21 AM
It's just glorified hacking. Without an external program to tell you your seed or counts, there's no way that you could possibly exploit the RNG unless you had extreme knowledge of the game card.

But I don't really have a problem with it. People are gonna hack regardless, so I can see why people RNG. I don't play enough competitive to care one way or the other.
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#9A792Posted 5/2/2013 8:11:48 AM
Just curious. If i need to reset my ds clock because it doesn't keep time that well and i start the game listen to my chatot, does this fall under RNG, basically that is all the procedure really is. except you reset the ds clock more frequently and check chatots more often.

Im not going to defend it from being an exploit. ill say that much. but i guess it depends what your definition of hacking is.

even before i RNG'd things all i considered hack to be is forcing the game to do something it normally shouldn't be able to or injecting data through 3rd party software such as AR.
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#10SlimeStackPosted 5/2/2013 8:34:35 AM
RNGs are supposed to give out random numbers. If you force it to give out a specific number then you're cheating. It requires the use of an external program too so it's really no different to using Pokégen or something.

One distinction from Pokégen I will make is that it's not possible to generate an illegal Pokémon (i.e. a Pokémon that has unnaturally high stats, or knows an ability or moves it cannot obtain). So someone who exclusively RNGs can't ever get a special advantage in battle. If someone's not getting an unfair advantage, then who cares if they cheat? It's fine.
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