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Imagine a trainer that used 6 pokemon like FEAR rattata and "Level 1 Aron"

#1King_of_XDPosted 5/8/2013 5:48:10 AM
And you fought him twice.

Once on the first route
And once as the elite four champion on rematch

He has the exact same team, right down to the levels.
#2pokemonfreak97Posted 5/8/2013 6:00:16 AM
The thing is, he'd be easy either way; on Route 1 you don't have strong enough Pokémon to always activate FEAR and by the Champion Rematch you can have a Ghost-type and a Rock-type.
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#3King_of_XD(Topic Creator)Posted 5/8/2013 6:48:07 AM
He'd be much easier the first time around for sure.

He could have Kangaskhan or Taillow with Scrappy to deal with Ghosts, but a single ghost pokemon would be quite a hard counter to the team. Level 1 pokemon with Prankster could add another dimension to this team.

On the flip side, it would be cool to see an early game trainer with level 100 pokemon that's still easy to beat with the right pokemon. A level 100 Shedinja or Ditto isn't particularly hard to counter.
#4CharizardFirePosted 5/8/2013 6:51:41 AM
From: pokemonfreak97 | #002
The thing is, he'd be easy either way; on Route 1 you don't have strong enough Pokémon to always activate FEAR and by the Champion Rematch you can have a Ghost-type and a Rock-type.

How would a Rock-type be able to defend against the strategy? A resistant typing wouldn't change 1 damage to 0 damage.
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#5WetstewPosted 5/8/2013 7:15:12 AM
CharizardFire posted...
From: pokemonfreak97 | #002
The thing is, he'd be easy either way; on Route 1 you don't have strong enough Pokémon to always activate FEAR and by the Champion Rematch you can have a Ghost-type and a Rock-type.

How would a Rock-type be able to defend against the strategy? A resistant typing wouldn't change 1 damage to 0 damage.


Level 1 Aron uses sandstorm to kill.
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#6Dark_EinherjarPosted 5/8/2013 7:46:11 AM
At the very beginning of the game, LV1 FEAR strategies pose little threat to your LV 5~ Pokémon because of their low HP.

Later on, there are numerous ways to counter them:
-Ghost Pokémon;
-Fake Out (other moves with flinch effects work as well, though they're not as reliable) users;
-Mold Breaker/Teravolt/Turboblaze users;
-Leftovers recovery (provided the Pokémon is immune to Sandstorm);
-Multi-hitting attacks;
-Priority moves of your own (against FEAR Rattata);
And so on...

Also, Aron has a poor synergy with other FEAR Pokémon: it requires Sandstorm to work, and Sandstorm makes the other FEAR Pokémon (aside from Ground/Rock/Steel types and Magic Guard users) useless.


Anyway, seriously... a Trainer like this would be even more annoying and useless than the mandatory Fisherman who uses six Magikarp; too much trouble for very little reward.
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#7ninjarauiPosted 5/8/2013 7:55:38 AM
Can someone explain what FEAR ratata and lvl 1 aron are?
#8Dark_EinherjarPosted 5/8/2013 8:12:46 AM
ninjaraui posted...
Can someone explain what FEAR ratata and lvl 1 aron are?


FEAR Rattata: a LV1 Rattata with Focus Sash, Endeavor and Quick Attack.

FEAR Aron: a LV1 Aron with Sturdy, Endeavor and Shell Bell (also requires Sandstorm support).

Both of them work similarly: tank a would-be lethal hit with Focus Sash/Sturdy, use Endeavor to bring the opponent's HP down to 1, then use a priority move (or Sandstorm) to deal the last point of damage.

Aron is probably the most effective of the bunch; it can fully recover its 12 HP after using Endeavor thanks to Shell Bell, which makes Sturdy active again and allows it to take more than 1 Pokémon.

Other variations of this strategy include:
-LV1 Cleffa/LV2 Clefairy/LV2 Clefable with Magic Guard, Focus Sash and Endeavor (requires Sandstorm/Hail support);
-LV2 Probopass with Sturdy and Pain Split (requires Sandstorm support);
-LV1 Swinub with Focus Sash, Endeavor and Ice Shard.
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#9Luigi playerPosted 5/8/2013 8:25:26 AM
Fear is easy to deal with. Use potions/revives 'till he doesn't have any moves left.
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#10IceDragon77Posted 5/8/2013 8:37:34 AM
From: Luigi player | #009
Fear is easy to deal with. Use potions/revives 'till he doesn't have any moves left.

This.

You knock down Rattata to 1 health.
He uses Endeavor. You go down to 1 health.

You use a potion.
He uses quick attack, does 1 damage.

You use a move to get rid of his 1 health.
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