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i never really understood the "rival" concept

#1LotrMorgothPosted 5/8/2013 3:18:08 PM
in almost every game there's a character that you beat repeatedly throughout the game that ends up being the most powerful trainer in the land.

never played Black or White so they may have changed it then, but would like see to cooler end game fights
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#2SilverSaint7Posted 5/8/2013 3:19:39 PM
LotrMorgoth posted...
in almost every game there's a character that you beat repeatedly throughout the game that ends up being the most powerful trainer in the land.

That only happened once, way back in RBY.
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#3LexifoxPosted 5/8/2013 3:20:00 PM
LotrMorgoth posted...
in almost every game there's a character that you beat repeatedly throughout the game that ends up being the most powerful trainer in the land.

never played Black or White so they may have changed it then, but would like see to cooler end game fights


In Black/White 1 you end up with three rivals. By the end game, one of them decides she doesn't want to become the champion and the other stops trying to reassess his goals.
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#4SlimeStackPosted 5/8/2013 3:20:56 PM
That only happened in Red and Blue.

GSC's rival was an angry sucky trainer who never made it anywhere, he just bumped into you and got all condescending when you beat him for the 80th time.

RSE's rival was barely even a rival. You fight like twice then they give up on the whole thing.

DPPt's rival was sorta strong but there's no evidence that he actually entered the Pokémon League or anything.

BW's rivals were decent but they were by no means particularly strong.
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#5NekoHime64Posted 5/8/2013 3:22:13 PM
SlimeStack posted...

BW's rivals were decent but they were by no means particularly strong.


Unless you count N as a rival.
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#6HomeRowedPosted 5/8/2013 3:22:48 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rival?s=t

1. a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another; competitor.
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#7Rad_DudesmanPosted 5/8/2013 3:23:21 PM
From: NekoHime64 | #005
Unless you count N as a rival.


This, I consider N to be the true rival of BW.
#8pokemonfreak97Posted 5/8/2013 4:05:04 PM
Rad_Dudesman posted...
From: NekoHime64 | #005
Unless you count N as a rival.


This, I consider N to be the true rival of BW.


See, Cheren fits the standard rival archetype filled by Blue, Silver, Brendan/May, Barry, and Hugh; the repeatedly-battled opponent who has the starter strong against yours.
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#9NewMoonShadowPosted 5/8/2013 4:08:11 PM
Rad_Dudesman posted...
From: NekoHime64 | #005
Unless you count N as a rival.


This, I consider N to be the true rival of BW.


Except N isn't trying to be better than you, his goals are completely unrelated to yours. He doesn't give a crap about the Pokemon League or Pokemon Training as a whole, in fact he hates what you stand for. He is in no way, shape, or form a "rival".
#10Strain42Posted 5/8/2013 4:09:31 PM
I don't consider N to be a rival anymore than I consider Giovanni to be a rival back in Gen 1.

But I don't necessarily think your rival just has to be the person with the starter strong against yours. For one that would eliminate "Gary" from Yellow as a Rival, and I also consider Bianca and Wally to be Rivals.

I was really disappointed by May/Brendan as a Rival though. I get that they ultimately decided they didn't want to be a Pokemon trainer, but they could have given us at least one fight where they had the final form of their starter.
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