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Why do people claim that Pokemon XY are fully 3D games?

#1iGenesisPosted 5/10/2013 2:46:53 PM
(Obviously, not referring to the 3DS' pop-up visual effects.)

Last I checked, whether a game is 2D or 3D is determined by gameplay, not graphics.

For a game to be truly considered as fully 3D, it would have the following characteristics (taken from the Wikipedia article on Super Mario 64):
As one of the earliest three-dimensional platform games, Super Mario 64 features free-roaming analog, six degrees of freedom, large open-ended areas, and true 3D polygons as opposed to 2D sprites. Hailed as "revolutionary", the game left a lasting impression on 3D game design, particularly notable for its use of a dynamic camera system and the implementation of its analog control.

On the other hand, all footage from Pokemon XY shows a fixed camera, with player movement being restricted to a standard tile grid as in the previous five iterations. Some footage from what appears to be gyms or other indoor areas even show the traditional top-down camera view.

Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, and the upcoming A Link to the Past 3D all have full polygon models, yet player movement is restricted to a single plane with a fixed, top-down camera. Some people call them "2.5D" due to their polygons, but they're not truly "3D" because they simply don't offer full 3D gameplay like Ocarina of Time.
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#2MugilokoPosted 5/10/2013 2:47:21 PM
cuz trailer = confirmed
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#3BountyanPosted 5/10/2013 2:54:36 PM(edited)
So we have to use a colloquial fan definition of "3D" now?

It's technically still a 3D game bro.

iGenesis posted...
Last I checked, whether a game is 2D or 3D is determined by gameplay, not graphics.


Last I checked, whether a game is 2D or 3D is determined by the graphics, not the gameplay.
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#4Strain42Posted 5/10/2013 2:52:05 PM
'cause for most people the distinction between a 2D or 3D game comes down to whether it uses sprites or models regardless of whether or not it's accurate.

People also say kleenix when they mean tissue, dumpster when they mean disposal unit, and refer to Frankenstein's Monster as Frankenstein.

Misconceptions that may be technically wrong, but everyone knows what you mean when you say them and anyone who corrects you is usually just being a smartass

...no offense.
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#5RingsOfUranusPosted 5/10/2013 3:03:07 PM
The game uses 3 dimensional models. Just because you'll never see the back of a house doesn't mean it isn't there.
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#6RoyMaster4Posted 5/10/2013 3:05:57 PM
Basically, you're saying almost every RPG is a 2D game because you essentially walk around on a 2d plane. Like every Final Fanasy game after 6 is now a 2D game, by your definition.

However, if you count those as 3D games, now suddenly Pokemon Black and White are 3D games because of the height element in any place with a bridge you can travel under and over.
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#7Meta289Posted 5/10/2013 3:08:47 PM
iGenesis topic.
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#8Genericgamer667Posted 5/10/2013 3:45:12 PM
oh look, it's igenesis
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#9iGenesis(Topic Creator)Posted 5/10/2013 4:09:05 PM
From: RoyMaster4 | #006
Basically, you're saying almost every RPG is a 2D game because you essentially walk around on a 2d plane. Like every Final Fanasy game after 6 is now a 2D game, by your definition.

I think the keys are
(a) whether the camera is fixed or not
(b) whether there are 6 degrees of freedom in player movement
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#10HeyWheresKelPosted 5/10/2013 4:10:29 PM
I can't help but agree with TC, but I feel that Gamefreak will soon get to that point.
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