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What's even the point of pre-evolutions?
From: Zabuzadono | #029
Pichu gets Nasty Plot, Pikachu does not.
And Pokémon's movelists get revised every gen; that they gave Charm to baby Pokémon as an exclusive move is a poor attempt at justifying their existence. They don't need to create more babies just to give Pokémon new moves, or else we'd have babies for everything that got Shell Smash, etc. in Gen V.
Nasty Plot was introduced in Gen IV anyhow, so believing Pichu was introduced for anything other than marketing is flat out naive.
I personally dislike them. Even if they add new moves. In my evolution project, I set up a formula to decide whether the standalone Pokemon get prevos or not...due to this formula, most do not.
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Counter-argument: Wynaut. It gets Encore... which can then be used to round out Wobbuffet's arsenal of counter-based destruction. Safeguard, Encore, then Counter or Mirror Coat depending on what you Encored. Also, a list of moves baby Pokemon give their lines:
Pichu: Charm, Sweet Kiss, Nasty Plot, Uproar (only Pichu can get it from move tutor)
Cleffa: Charm, Sweet Kiss, Copycat, Magical Leaf, Uproar (tutor exclusive), Sleep Talk (only DW Cleffa gets it)
Igglybuff: Charm, Sweet Kiss, Copycat, Uproar (tutor exclusive), Helping Hand (DW exclusive)
Tyrogue: Tackle, Helping Hand, Fake Out, Uproar (tutor exclusive)
Smoochum: Sweet Kiss, Confusion, Sing, Lucky Chant, Copycat, Uproar (tutor exclusive), Skill Swap (DW exclusive)
Elekid: Uproar (tutor exclusive), Magnet Rise (DW exclusive)
Magby: Uproar (tutor exclusive), Heat Wave (DW exclusive)
Azurill: Splash, Charm, Bubble, Slam, Uproar (tutor exclusive)
Budew: Water Sport, Worry Seed, Uproar (tutor exclusive)
Chingling: Last Resort, Entrainment
Bonsly: Fake Tears, Uproar (tutor exclusive)
Mime Jr.: Tickle, Uproar (tutor exclusive)
Happiny: Charm, Copycat, Sweet Kiss, Uproar (tutor exclusive)
Munchlax: Metronome, Odor Sleuth, Recycle, Screech, Stockpile, Swallow, Snatch, Last Resort, Uproar (tutor exclusive)
Mantyke: None. How useless.
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What they should do is allow the player to alter the pre-evos nature before they evolve.
Who's the audience for these games? Kids.
Kids like cute things, and baby Pokemon are cute.
Baby Pokemon = $$$
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Counter-argument: Wynaut. It gets Encore... which can then be used to round out Wobbuffet's arsenal of counter-based destruction. Safeguard, Encore, then Counter or Mirror Coat depending on what you Encored.
But why not just give Encore to Wob?
As said, they can used well or badly. Elekid and such are good use, cleffa and such is bad use. Hopefully they steer away from the latter in the future.
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