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The Fairy-type attack was super-effective on Hydreigon....

#21gamermasterwizPosted 6/11/2013 5:07:35 PM
P0k3m0nWaRR10R8 posted...
Yes it does... it could easily have been 4x effective

"Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it."


This is rumor right? Woah..steel and poison huh? I don't understand why?

And lol immune to Dragon xD imagine a Jigglypuff not getting popped by dragon claw.
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#22BrightStar7Posted 6/11/2013 5:11:37 PM
No different from Zorua not getting crushed by Mewtwo's Psystrike. I never liked immunities apart from Ghost > Fighting/Normal.
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#23jayman7Posted 6/11/2013 5:42:06 PM
gamermasterwiz posted...
This is rumor right? Woah..steel and poison huh? I don't understand why?


Fairies have a weakness to cold iron in many stories. And Poison? Needs the buff.
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#24Faust_8Posted 6/11/2013 5:59:42 PM
jayman7 posted...
gamermasterwiz posted...
This is rumor right? Woah..steel and poison huh? I don't understand why?


Fairies have a weakness to cold iron in many stories. And Poison? Needs the buff.


This.

As for Fairy beating Dark...we have no reason to doubt the leak at this point (he's been right about EVERYTHING so far) but I do agree that I wish it wasn't...like others have said, Dark doesn't need a new weakness. Being weak to Fighting and Bug while only hitting Ghost and Psychic for SE damage is bad enough.

However, that's probably the case. They probably wanted Fairy to hit more than just Dragon and Fighting, but no other type really makes sense.
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#25NeonDragon9000Posted 6/11/2013 6:00:39 PM
Firemaster5 posted...
jayman7 posted...
A Fairy-type attack was super-effective against a Dark-type Pokémon. Therefore, Fairy attacks are not super-effective against Dark-type Pokémon.

Is what I just read.

WTF?

Perhaps you need to re-take logic classes, because "x therefore not x" is such a ridiculous fallacy that I don't think it even has a proper name!

It's super effective to the Dragon half.
That isn't to say it can't be super effective against Dark types.
Dark type having immunity or resistance would've have neutralized Moon Ball to regular damage so, it isn't.
Maybe Dark types are weak to Fairy type attacks making in 4x effective.


Dark is weak to Fairy. Hydreigon is 4x weak to Fairy. Case closed.
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#26NeonDragon9000Posted 6/11/2013 6:01:59 PM
gamermasterwiz posted...
P0k3m0nWaRR10R8 posted...
Yes it does... it could easily have been 4x effective

"Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it."


This is rumor right? Woah..steel and poison huh? I don't understand why?

And lol immune to Dragon xD imagine a Jigglypuff not getting popped by dragon claw.


not any different from jigglypuff not getting popped by shadow claw
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#27uwnimPosted 6/11/2013 6:36:17 PM
If it is a 60 base attack STAB move coming from an Eeveelutions lowest stat(base 60), then at level 50 for both with no investments you get

50-62 (29.94 - 37.12%) -- 59.94% chance to 3HKO for 2x weak
and
100-124 (59.88 - 74.25%) -- guaranteed 2HKO for 4x weak.

Coming from a 95 base attacking stat

72-86 (43.11 - 51.49%) -- 6.25% chance to 2HKO for 2x weak

144-172 (86.22 - 102.99%) -- 25% chance to OHKO for 4x weak.
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#28erekwashere15Posted 6/11/2013 6:52:59 PM
From: Firemaster5 | #015
jayman7 posted...
A Fairy-type attack was super-effective against a Dark-type Pokémon. Therefore, Fairy attacks are not super-effective against Dark-type Pokémon.

Is what I just read.

WTF?

Perhaps you need to re-take logic classes, because "x therefore not x" is such a ridiculous fallacy that I don't think it even has a proper name!

It's super effective to the Dragon half.
That isn't to say it can't be super effective against Dark types.
Dark type having immunity or resistance would've have neutralized Moon Ball to regular damage so, it isn't.
Maybe Dark types are weak to Fairy type attacks making in 4x effective.



If Dark had an immunity to Fairy, the move would have failed entirely.

All we know is that Dark does not resist, and is not immune to Fairy attacks. The only other options are that Dark is weak to Fairy or just takes normal damage.

I don't understand why Fairy would be strong against EVIL anyway. I haven't read many fairy tales, but I definitely haven't read any where the bad guys flee at sight of a Fairy.
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#29RTC3Posted 6/11/2013 6:56:13 PM
fairy is real?

f*** dis s***
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#30Emerald_MeliosPosted 6/13/2013 3:56:04 PM
BrightStar7 posted...
Even if Hydreigon is 4x weak it has high stats and Sylveon may have low attacking stats. It seems like a supporter type to me.


Umbreon mk2?