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Which is more effective on umbreon? Quick attack or payback?

#11SMASHKING84Posted 6/18/2013 9:50:21 PM
quick attack seems kinda useless if your gonna keep dropping your speed.
if your oppent use quick attack or other similar moves they'll get prioty because you dropped your speed.
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#12scrappybristolPosted 6/18/2013 9:51:17 PM
MetaCyclone posted...
That explains why foul play is weak on zoroark!!!

Wow... I never knew foul play was meant to be used like that. Thank you guys, i know my decision now.

@ scrappy

You sure i should ditch curse? The reason why i love it, is because it ables umbreon to wall against fighters.


Well in my experience that's the best way to use Umbreon, that and Heal Bell with Wish Pass.
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#13MetaCyclone(Topic Creator)Posted 6/18/2013 10:03:22 PM
Alright, ill try out the toxic method for once. Sides, curse may destroy the purpose of foul play.

God, i sometimes wish eevee can learn cosmic power from his egg set
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#14MetaCyclone(Topic Creator)Posted 6/18/2013 10:57:34 PM
How about

Foul play
Double team
Toxic
Wish

With brightpowder?
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#15N-K-SPosted 6/19/2013 2:24:54 AM
MetaCyclone posted...
But foul play is only effective if the opposing pokemon's attack has been improved...


I think you're thinking of punishment (the move that's base damage increases with every stat gain the opponent has)