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CD: Nasty Ploy is all Charizard need to be good

#1MetaDeDeDePosted 6/20/2013 2:08:30 PM
C: With a 109 base Special Attack and wide varity of Special Move combined with Solar Power, Nasty Plot will make it OU or at least BL at worst with it Speed being a base 100.

But even then, It will be hard to win matches with for it only good Stats are it Special Attack and Speed. It is very frail and a lot of Pokemon does sword Dance Better than Zard. Steath Rock will prevent it from going to Uber with the Nasty Plot, Solar Power Combo.

What do you think?
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#2Octaivian_RexPosted 6/20/2013 2:10:36 PM
Volcarona would still be better in every way.
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#3Ray GunPosted 6/20/2013 2:15:06 PM
still be terrible
by the time you nasty plot you're at like 37% and slower than most sweepers in OU
all of which don't need as much support to be as effective and are actually threatening outside of one weather (which is easily removed)
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#4KyrieIrvingPosted 6/20/2013 2:19:35 PM
D still garb
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#5D_BartPosted 6/20/2013 2:29:21 PM(edited)
1) Solar Power still makes it lose 1/8 of its maximum HP per turn.
2) Still completely destroyed by anything that naturally out speeds/ has a scarf/ priority
3) Stealth Rock.
4) Still useless outside any other weather.

I adore Charizard. It has been one of my favourite Pokemon since I was eight. That being said,

It sucks competitively, deal with it.
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#6Stormvale12Posted 6/20/2013 2:30:04 PM
What does Nasty Ploy do?
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#7iKhanicPosted 6/20/2013 2:30:41 PM
I'd say UU, with a niche in OU. Remember that Houndoom has an almost identical stat spread to Charizard and has Nasty Plot.

That said, I don't think you could combine Nasty Plot with Solar Power. Solar Power basically puts an 8 turn clock on Charizard for a sweep, setting up with Nasty Plot really isn't an option there.

However, w/o Solar Power, Nasty Plot could be very dangerous on Charizard.

And no 100 is not too slow. Especially for a Fire-type (the only viable fire type faster than 100 base speed is infernape)
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#8Ray GunPosted 6/20/2013 2:35:19 PM
make note that really the only viable fire types in OU are heatran and infernape
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#9Ray GunPosted 6/20/2013 2:39:05 PM
forgot volcarona, lol.
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#10Thepenguinking2Posted 6/20/2013 3:58:17 PM
Give it quiver dance. IDGAC if it makes no sense, do it.
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