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Rearrange and optimize the starter hidden abilities

#1iKhanicPosted 7/3/2013 11:51:42 AM
Here they are as of now:
Venusaur- Chlorophyll
Charizard- Solar Power
Blastoise- Rain Dish
Meganium- Leaf Guard
Typhlosion- Flash Fire
Feraligatr- Sheer Force
Sceptile- Unburden
Blaziken- Speed Boost
Swampert- Damp
Torterra- Shell Armor
Infernape- Iron Fist
Empoleon- Defiant
Serperior- Contrary
Emboar- Reckless
Samurott- Shell Armor

The goal of this game/topic is to rearrange these hidden abilities among the starters so that the average usefulness of all starters is the highest.

Here are the rules:
These abilities must belong to a Grass starter:
Leaf Guard
Chlorophyll

These abilities must belong to a Grass or Fire starter:
Solar Power

These abilities must belong to a Fire starter:
Flash Fire

These abilities must belong to a Water starter:
Damp
Rain Dish

These abilities must belong to a Pokemon that has an association with a shell:
Shell Armor

And go.
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#2MrFingers07Posted 7/3/2013 11:52:14 AM
Venusaur- Chlorophyll
Charizard- Solar Power
Blastoise- Rain Dish
Meganium- Leaf Guard
Typhlosion- Flash Fire
Feraligatr- Sheer Force
Sceptile- Unburden
Blaziken- Speed Boost
Swampert- Damp
Torterra- Shell Armor
Infernape- Iron Fist
Empoleon- Defiant
Serperior- Contrary
Emboar- Reckless
Samurott- Shell Armor
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#3iKhanic(Topic Creator)Posted 7/3/2013 1:24:10 PM
I made one. Not sure how much better it is than the norm though.

Venusaur- Chlorophyll
Charizard- Unburden
Blastoise- Shell Armor
Meganium- Leaf Guard
Typhlosion- Flash Fire
Feraligatr- Iron Fist
Sceptile- Contrary
Blaziken- Speed Boost
Swampert- Damp
Torterra- Shell Armor
Infernape- Solar Power
Empoleon- Sheer Force
Serperior- Defiant
Emboar- Reckless
Samurott- Rain Dish
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#4iKhanic(Topic Creator)Posted 7/3/2013 1:50:48 PM
Come on guys, at least switch two.
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#5FuneralCakePosted 7/3/2013 1:53:38 PM
Charizard: Damp
Swampert: Sap Sipper
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#6iKhanic(Topic Creator)Posted 7/3/2013 1:59:38 PM
FuneralCake posted...
Charizard: Damp
Swampert: Sap Sipper


As long as Damp is changed so that any move that would OHKO Charizard fails.
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#7CakeOfLiesPosted 7/3/2013 2:00:20 PM
Swampert: Swift Swim.
Charizard: Magic Guard (now SR doesn't do anything to him! :D)
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#8HomeRowedPosted 7/3/2013 2:01:21 PM
iKhanic posted...
As long as Damp is changed so that any move that would OHKO Charizard fails.


Nope. Damp still just causes Selfdestruct and Explosion to fail.
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#9iKhanic(Topic Creator)Posted 7/3/2013 2:13:17 PM
CakeOfLies posted...
Swampert: Swift Swim.
Charizard: Magic Guard (now SR doesn't do anything to him! :D)


But Zard loses his main niche and is outclassed by Alakazam.
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#10ZabuzadonoPosted 7/3/2013 2:43:46 PM
Venusaur- Chlorophyll
Charizard- Unburden (I like this better here than on Sceptile - Flying Gem + Acrobatics)
Blastoise- Rain Dish

Meganium- Leaf Guard
Typhlosion- Flash Fire
Feraligatr- Defiant (I hate taking away Sheer Force from him, but Defiant removes fear of Intimidate while you dance)

Sceptile- Solar Power (Fast enough to make use of Solar Power)
Blaziken- Reckless (Brave Bird + Flare Blitz makes this decent)
Swampert- Damp (Can't really move this off him...)

Torterra- Contrary (Contrary Leaf Storms & Superpowers make this more threatening than Serperior)
Infernape- Iron Fist
Empoleon- Shell Armor (2 Shell Armors and only 4 pokes with shell....)

Serperior- Sheer Force (Keeps Serperior usable)
Emboar- Speed Boost (I like the idea of the pig speeding up as the battle goes on)
Samurott- Shell Armor (Too many shells)
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