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C/D Venusaur is the second most powerful starter

#21DarkDragon386Posted 7/19/2013 6:12:53 PM
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Infernape and Blazikens say differantly


infernape isn't as good as venusaur in sun

But Infernape does have far better move pool. It is not just stats thhat determine power. You need good stats and good moves


growth
sleep powder
sludge bomb
giga drain
hidden power
earthquake

what more do you need?

Charizard kills Venusaur in the sun. Does that make him most powerful
Without Sun Venusaur is useless atleast Infernape can still be useful without sun


I wouldn't say so. Venusaur works quite nice as a rain counter, imo. Rain weakens its most common weakness and it can take out most rain abusers with EQ or giga drain, save for Starmie firing off ice beams or psychics, Thundurus, Tornadus, and Dragonite. Especially if it happened to get a growth up in the sun.
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#22BallinariPosted 7/19/2013 6:12:53 PM
i like how you avoided the question, what's ur rank? Whether that's in random match, fakemon, whatever
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#23pokemonzeroPosted 7/19/2013 6:14:44 PM
Ballinari posted...
i like how you avoided the question, what's ur rank? Whether that's in random match, fakemon, whatever

Random matchup doesn't rank. I don't do the ranked matches.
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#24BallinariPosted 7/19/2013 6:16:53 PM
how convenient

why should we take ur word over others that do rank well even in random matchup?
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#25GoldenSWarriorsPosted 7/19/2013 6:27:38 PM
pokemonzero posted...
GoldenSWarriors posted...
pokemonzero posted...
GoldenSWarriors posted...
pokemonzero posted...
Infernape and Blazikens say differantly


infernape isn't as good as venusaur in sun

But Infernape does have far better move pool. It is not just stats thhat determine power. You need good stats and good moves


growth
sleep powder
sludge bomb
giga drain
hidden power
earthquake

what more do you need?

Charizard kills Venusaur in the sun. Does that make him most powerful
Without Sun Venusaur is useless atleast Infernape can still be useful without sun


no, charizard is not more powerful that venusaur just because it can kill him

venusaur should always be used in sun. If you lose the weather war, that's your fault. He's still not useless though without sun.
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#26pokemonzeroPosted 7/19/2013 6:34:03 PM
It is your choice who to believe. In gen 4(Without DWA) Venusaur was UU and Infernape was still OU. Infernape has the ability to counter all his weaknesses while pokemon like Skarmory wall Venusaur to death.
In the sun Venusaur is a beast but without the sun he is not very good and can be walled or OHKOed by quite a few pokemon.
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