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So is using the iPhone app to make pokemon taboo?

#1YorksterPosted 7/24/2013 5:56:42 AM
I stumbled upon some app today that lets you pretty much make any pokemon from scratch and send it to your game.

Of course I was skeptical but it actually had a really high rating.

So, for one, does this thing actually work?

And, do people get mad if you fight online with them? is there even a way to tell?
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#2SirPikachuPosted 7/24/2013 6:01:14 AM
I think that's what people use to hack perfect mons in. It's stupid IMO cuz Pokmon is supposed to be about training, and IVs are supposed to make it unique, but then people just say "lol nope" and then all make the exact same pokémon to fight each other with, which kinda defeats the purpose.

I really hope that there is no way possible to get a hacked Pokémon in X and Y, so if someone wants their perfect pokémon they actually have to work for it.
#3Gray_AreasPosted 7/24/2013 6:02:10 AM
No different from Pokegen. If you make it legal (giving your Pokemon stats and moves that are obtainable in the game), no one can even tell the difference. Some people will say it's cheating, others will tell you that it's fine since you're just cutting out the middle man (that being the actual raising of the Pokemon). It's your call. If your moral compass says no, then don't get it and train them yourself. If you're moral compass doesn't care, then get it.

Btw, there are free computer programs that do the same thing as that app. I believe the app costs a few dollars, and I also believe that all things that work like that require either an Action Replay or access to the GTS.
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#4EvolutionUberPosted 7/24/2013 6:03:55 AM
It's pretty much pokegen, it's fine way easier to get competive Pokemon. I love to generate shiny Pokemon with prefect ivs and evs and name them hacklol.
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#5Alexoneill77777Posted 7/24/2013 6:04:06 AM
SirPikachu posted...
I think that's what people use to hack perfect mons in. It's stupid IMO cuz Pokmon is supposed to be about training, and IVs are supposed to make it unique, but then people just say "lol nope" and then all make the exact same pokémon to fight each other with, which kinda defeats the purpose.

I really hope that there is no way possible to get a hacked Pokémon in X and Y, so if someone wants their perfect pokémon they actually have to work for it.


Ivs should be removed from the game lets face it now they are just causing people to want to hack and x and y will have hacked pokemon too
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#6beebarbPosted 7/24/2013 6:18:54 AM
Though I haven't used it, just looking at the screenshots the iPhone app is a cheap quality editor that is unlikely to make anything that will pass a legality check.

It's easy to tell when someone is using an obvious hack. Ways to tell include a Pokemon using a move it can't learn (that isn't a legitimate event move), Battle Videos not working properly, etc.

The greater community considers it cheating and hacking and by definition 'taboo', but there is a vocal minority (which any one of us at one point find ourselves) that think it is OK so long as they are technically legal, as to them you are "cutting out the middle man" so to speak.

However, learning how to make a hack that can't be distinguished from something that was RNG abused* takes a lot of research about how the game works and what the legal values are for each Pokemon.




* RNG abuse being the practice of using pre-existing knowledge of how the Predictable Random Number Generator (PRNG) used by the games works (sometimes with assistance from a specialised tool), to get what you want without hacking.
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#7deadpool848Posted 7/24/2013 6:45:02 AM
beebarb posted...
Though I haven't used it, just looking at the screenshots the iPhone app is a cheap quality editor that is unlikely to make anything that will pass a legality check.

It's easy to tell when someone is using an obvious hack. Ways to tell include a Pokemon using a move it can't learn (that isn't a legitimate event move), Battle Videos not working properly, etc.

The greater community considers it cheating and hacking and by definition 'taboo', but there is a vocal minority (which any one of us at one point find ourselves) that think it is OK so long as they are technically legal, as to them you are "cutting out the middle man" so to speak.

However, learning how to make a hack that can't be distinguished from something that was RNG abused* takes a lot of research about how the game works and what the legal values are for each Pokemon.



* RNG abuse being the practice of using pre-existing knowledge of how the Predictable Random Number Generator (PRNG) used by the games works (sometimes with assistance from a specialised tool), to get what you want without hacking.


This app actually informs you if you try to set up something that isnt possible ingame, like putting more than 510 EV onto a pokemon and so on. And it does not take much research at all to make a legal pokemon... You just dont give more than 510 EVs, anc dont give it an ability or mvoe its cant normaly use, its about as simple as it gets. Plus most people dont really care anymore and just use pokemon showdown to battle now anyway.