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If Charizard was made last gen, it wouldn't get nearly as much flack as it does.

#1DaVeBaTiStAFaNPosted 7/24/2013 5:32:34 PM
Stoutland and Sawsbuck are good in OU under certain weather, but are NU. Yet, they're never as hated as much by the likes of Smogon, who tend to crap on Charizard all the time. Charizard is very powerful under the sun, able to OHKO an Arceus. I think he gets all the hate because he's an original starter.
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#2PrettyTonyTigerPosted 7/24/2013 5:33:54 PM
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#3DaVeBaTiStAFaN(Topic Creator)Posted 7/24/2013 5:35:09 PM
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#4G-ScythePosted 7/24/2013 5:35:46 PM
when you're the OG, you're gonna get haters
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#5Toasty_KabalPosted 7/24/2013 5:38:15 PM
You realise it's gamefaqs posters that hate Charizard, not Smogon, right?
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#6DaVeBaTiStAFaN(Topic Creator)Posted 7/24/2013 5:40:04 PM
Toasty_Kabal posted...
You realise it's gamefaqs posters that hate Charizard, not Smogon, right?


Smogon has refused to rank Charizard in their Viability rankings even though it's a powerful sun sweeper given the right support. And not a Usage Stats topic goes by without someone mentioning how mad they are that Charizard is being used.
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#7InhaledCornPosted 7/24/2013 5:41:39 PM
I don't hate Charizard. I like him very much, actually. Black Charizard is a cool-ass mo-fo. (still think the tail fire should be blue tho)

The problem is, he's terribly overrated. Even people who don't like Pokemon like Charizard.

Charizard topped a list of Top 10 Video Game Dragons, AND HE'S NOT A FREAKING DRAGON!
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#8wind64aPosted 7/24/2013 5:43:36 PM
If it was made last gen, it might have better boosting moves, and a better stat distribution.
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#9Toasty_KabalPosted 7/24/2013 5:43:40 PM
Also, Stoutland is leagues better than Charizard.
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#10D_BartPosted 7/24/2013 5:46:14 PM
Toasty_Kabal posted...
You realise it's gamefaqs posters that hate Charizard, not Smogon, right?


Honestly, a lot of people here like or even love Charizard. It's just a lot of people refuse to accept that he's mediocre competitively.
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