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Face it, garchomp is the best dragon in OU

#41Faust_8Posted 8/18/2013 10:47:21 PM
Jaricko posted...
fahademon posted...
Dragonite says "hi".


Pretty sure it has more then enough attack to punch threw multi scale and enough bulk to survive a non boosted outrage.


Garchomp can't "punch through" any Dragonite's Multiscale if it has 252 HP EVs, even if Garchomp has Choice Band.

And Garchomp can't survive an unboosted Outrage unless Dragonite isn't investing in Attack. Anyway, since it's guaranteed that Dragonite can retaliate, it doesn't much matter since he could easily use Dragon Dance and then even a Dragon Claw would probably be enough.

So yeah, it's a fact that a defensive Dragonite with Dragon Dance always beats Garchomp.

Punching through a defensive Multiscale...is not easily done without Ice moves.

http://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/
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#42RTC3Posted 8/18/2013 11:24:01 PM
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#43LoveSquirtlePosted 8/18/2013 11:25:16 PM
InhaledCorn posted...
Actually, I think that honor belongs to Latios.

Better base speed than Garchomp. Able to smash most walls, Physical or Special. Packs a better BA Dragon move that doesn't lock it in for at least two turns. Can heal itself. Not x4 weak to Ice making it harder for Ice Shard KOs. Burn doesn't phase it. And, immune to Ground.


For a second, I thought you meant that Latios can be both Physical and Special, lol.
#44ThePokeMan98Posted 8/18/2013 11:35:44 PM
Sashed garchomp is fun to run.

*One on one face-up between garchomp and dragonite*

*Dragonite uses outrage*

*Garchomp hangs in there with focus sash!*

*KO's dragonite with outrage*

*Trollface*
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#45uuurrrgghPosted 8/18/2013 11:37:33 PM
ThePokeMan98 posted...
Sashed garchomp is fun to run.

*One on one face-up between garchomp and dragonite*

*Dragonite uses outrage*

*Garchomp hangs in there with focus sash!*

*KO's dragonite with outrage*

*Trollface*


Stealth Rock.

Nuff said.
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#46LightningAce11(Topic Creator)Posted 8/19/2013 1:00:39 AM
uuurrrggh posted...
Oh noes, a Garchomp! And it's going to use a dragon STAB move!

*switches into Ferrothorn*


252 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 250-296 (71.02 - 84.09%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn on a critical hit: 499-593 (141.76 - 168.46%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It's gonna die anyway.
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#47Hierarchy225Posted 8/19/2013 1:05:25 AM
ThePokeMan98 posted...
Sashed garchomp is fun to run.

*One on one face-up between garchomp and dragonite*

*Dragonite uses outrage*

*Garchomp hangs in there with focus sash!*


*KO's dragonite with outrage*

*Trollface*


What the hell kind of crappy Garchomp is slower than a Dragonite?
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#48james009223Posted 8/19/2013 1:51:37 AM
kagster123 posted...
My Sylveon lols at your Garchomp.

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#49LightningAce11(Topic Creator)Posted 8/19/2013 1:54:02 AM
james009223 posted...
kagster123 posted...
My Sylveon lols at your Garchomp.


Lol sylveon. It can't possibly do much to garchomp. It does not have outrage as its only attack, you know?
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#50Slayerblade11Posted 8/19/2013 2:51:01 AM
Garchomp isn't even the best sweeper in OU. 102 base speed without any speed boosting moves is disappointing by OU standards