Fourth gen we didn't know the starters until after the game came out in Japan. Fifth gen less than two months before - and those were leaked! People on this board either have terrible memories, or they are very confused due to the worldwide release.
i quit pokemon after DPP was released, and didn't get back into it until BW2 was about to come out.
That's your problem then.
...so why are you saying that it matters that I know when the starters were released, again? you said yourself, 2 gens ago they weren't shown until after release and last gen they were leaked right before release. this topic is asking which you hope happens this gen. --- 3DS FC - 3050-8064-0629