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If Mega Evolutions don't waste a turn, why should Zen Mode and Relic Song?

#1Dino-KPosted 9/2/2013 8:06:39 PM
Pokemon can only change into their mega form with a mega stone. So long as a Darmanitan has Zen Mode and Meloetta knows Relic Song, they should be able to freely change form too. And yes, I know Zen Mode doesn't waste a turn, but Darmanitan needs to be at half health for it to work.
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#2FuneralCakePosted 9/2/2013 8:07:13 PM
You really want to know why? Game Freak.
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#3NeonDragon9000Posted 9/2/2013 8:10:19 PM
It's possible that Zen Mode and Relic Song may get reworked in Gen. VI.

Zen Mode, especially, now seems like it was sort of an experiment to see how in-battle forme changing would work out.
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#4javel34Posted 9/2/2013 8:12:39 PM
NeonDragon9000 posted...
It's possible that Zen Mode and Relic Song may get reworked in Gen. VI.

Zen Mode, especially, now seems like it was sort of an experiment to see how in-battle forme changing would work out.


Maybe, but they won't introduce a stone for it, so I wonder how you would choose it.
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#5JustinTheJaggedPosted 9/2/2013 8:14:55 PM
Well, Relic Song uses a turn because it's an attack. I would definitely like to see a non attack version of it that doesn't take a turn, though.
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#6Dino-K(Topic Creator)Posted 9/2/2013 8:15:05 PM
javel34 posted...
Maybe, but they won't introduce a stone for it, so I wonder how you would choose it.


If Darmanitan has Zen Mode, it can just freely change. Same thing with Meloetta knowing relic song.
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#7AverticePosted 9/2/2013 8:23:30 PM
On another note, it makes me wonder how they will handle other forms of Pokemon - like Giratina for example. Will it stay the same or will they make it a Mega Evolution? Griseous Orb could be another type of "-ite" orb that causes Mega Evolution.
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#8javel34Posted 9/2/2013 8:31:24 PM
Dino-K posted...
javel34 posted...
Maybe, but they won't introduce a stone for it, so I wonder how you would choose it.


If Darmanitan has Zen Mode, it can just freely change. Same thing with Meloetta knowing relic song.


Yea but then game canon wise it wouldn't make sense I don't think.
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#9NessEggmanPosted 9/2/2013 8:31:47 PM
But Zen Mode and Relic Song are different than a Mega Evolution... It's like asking why don't ALL moves have 100% accuracy when some of the other do? Why should Hyper Beam take an extra turn when Tackle doesn't?!

Well, because they're different...

Zen Mode is a defensive mode that Darm goes into when it is hurt... Mega Evolution is not.

IDK I feel like this is just kind of obvious...???

And they're not going to rework the mechanics for these... Mega Evolution is not meant to replace the concept of formes O_o
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#10Faust_8Posted 9/2/2013 8:35:20 PM
Avertice posted...
On another note, it makes me wonder how they will handle other forms of Pokemon - like Giratina for example. Will it stay the same or will they make it a Mega Evolution? Griseous Orb could be another type of "-ite" orb that causes Mega Evolution.


Why would that change? Mega evolutions only happen in battle and go away when it's over, however the existing transformations happen OUTside of battle and are permanent as long as the item is held or whatever.

They have nothing in common except that they're both an altering of the Pokemon.
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