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It is very likely Mega Charizard will still be garbage.

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2 years ago#21
StirFriday posted...
kakashik99992 posted...
Any pokemon with weather becomes at least OU/UU material this is proved and true and never failed so far so I would say that actually it's very unlikely that Mega Charizard will be "garbage"


Ninetales takes less damage from SR, which automatically makes it better.


First of all you should NEVER take SR damage on a sun team if you have hands and a functional brain since your late/middle sweep 90% of the time involves Volcarona(and Venusaur) so you need to build your team and play in a way to not have SR on your field plus having two weather starters really benefits sun since it's much more prone to lose a ws against rain/sand not to mention that MegaCharizard give you a guaranteed drought turn and SR is pretty much non existent on doubles

It seems to me son that you have too little skill to play a sun team and/or a low level of intelligence to play competitively pokemon at all so I suggest you to stop talking out of your a** about things you don't understand
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2 years ago#22
SalsaSavant posted...
kaiser ryu posted...
I'm by no means a competent Pokemon player, but Drought makes Solarbeam good, right? And Charizard can learn Solarbeam? It seems like it'd at least get use as a quick and dirty weather setter-upper.


This is true...but Zard needs a chance to actually attack.

Against a large percentage of teams, it effectively has 1/2 of it's HP thanks to SR. And then, anything faster than it will be able to effectively 1 hit KO it.

It wouldn't even have a chance to transform, much less attack.


I sort of imagined it as a quasi disposable lead. It has decent speed and coverage, you throw it out at the onset, make it mega and keep most Pokemon capable of laying SR out at bay with insta Solarbeams.
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2 years ago#23
wufei8706 posted...
StirFriday posted...
Well, Ninetales and sun teams are pretty bad themselves, so that's not saying much. Sun is the weakest form of weather.


Hail.


That's true. Only one type can ever benefit. Ice-Type's are quite uncommon anyways. At least Sun has both Fire and Grass-Types that benefit from it.
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2 years ago#24
Needlessly provocative passive/aggressive thread = OP should feel bad

Emotionally-charged arguments against TC that make you look silly and petulant = responders should feel bad
2 years ago#25
You have to figure that mega stats level will be close to legendaries so figure major increase to speed and sp atk . So it is still a glass cannon but it could sure drop a scary blast burn or solar beam on you if your not prepared
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2 years ago#26
People, if you're using Mega Charizard, chances are that you'll use it as a lead(although he still loses to Ninetales since I assume you use up a turn to Mega evolve?). Stealth rocks would be irrelevant at that point.

If you switch Charizard out, you can just spin the rocks away before switching him back in, since I'm positive that any Charizard user has a dedicated rapin spinner.
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2 years ago#27
It's fine, Mega Venasaur is making up for it. No weakness to fire or ice due to thick fat (now only does 1x damage), making it only weak to psychic and bug. Add that to a defense increase in mega form and you have yourself a pretty good wall. It's a bit of a shame you lose out on chlorophyll (if you choose to mega evolve that is).
2 years ago#28
hors_doeuvres posted...
(although he still loses to Ninetales since I assume you use up a turn to Mega evolve?)


I don't think it uses up a turn to Mega evolve.
2 years ago#29
hors_doeuvres posted...
People, if you're using Mega Charizard, chances are that you'll use it as a lead(although he still loses to Ninetales since I assume you use up a turn to Mega evolve?). Stealth rocks would be irrelevant at that point.

If you switch Charizard out, you can just spin the rocks away before switching him back in, since I'm positive that any Charizard user has a dedicated rapin spinner.


Nope. Just need high friendship (or something similar) and the stone equipped.
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2 years ago#30
kakashik99992 posted...
StirFriday posted...
kakashik99992 posted...
Any pokemon with weather becomes at least OU/UU material this is proved and true and never failed so far so I would say that actually it's very unlikely that Mega Charizard will be "garbage"


Ninetales takes less damage from SR, which automatically makes it better.


First of all you should NEVER take SR damage on a sun team if you have hands and a functional brain since your late/middle sweep 90% of the time involves Volcarona(and Venusaur) so you need to build your team and play in a way to not have SR on your field plus having two weather starters really benefits sun since it's much more prone to lose a ws against rain/sand not to mention that MegaCharizard give you a guaranteed drought turn and SR is pretty much non existent on doubles

It seems to me son that you have too little skill to play a sun team and/or a low level of intelligence to play competitively pokemon at all so I suggest you to stop talking out of your a** about things you don't understand


Man, this guy's disproportionately upset lol. And I don't recognize your username, so either (a) you're not important enough for me to remember (b) you've just started playing competitively and you think those couple of articles you read on smogon make you an authority (c) you have no idea who you're talking to

I've probably been playing competitively since before you knew what an EV is.
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