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Mawile

#1Tequila_ShotPosted 9/12/2013 12:22:23 AM
Glad to see this baby getting some very much-needed love this generation. Though, with Huge Power and boosted defenses, I'm still wondering if it'll even be enough to bring it out of obscurity.

I'm really curious to see how the mechanics of Mega Evolution work in regards to base stats. If it's HP and Speed don't change at all, I'm not sure if having significantly boosted offense and moderately boosted defenses will be anywhere near enough.

As much as I love Mawile, even I can't deny that 50 base HP and 50 base Speed are pretty bad.
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#2Iced_ShadowsPosted 9/12/2013 12:24:47 AM
Don't forget that Steel/Fairy is a pretty amazing typing. That's definitely a buff in itself.
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#3JoJoX200Posted 9/12/2013 12:32:37 AM
I can see it getting some use in conjunktion with Trick Room, since MegaMawile is damn powerful. Normal Mawile's defenses are still very pitiful, unless it gets a base stat overhaul(unlikely, but this gen is full of surprises), which makes it hard to switch in normally.
Mega evolution seems to be tied to using a move too, so I can see Mawile having a problem even transforming because it's frail AND slow.

Mawile is a favorite of mine and the new typing is a huge boon, but I'm still sceptical. I'd love it if it became at least somewhat more usable(trust me, I've tried one with Trick Room and Screens in PWT and it's so bad it's sad)
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#4Iced_ShadowsPosted 9/12/2013 12:34:52 AM
I think it has potential anyway. I don't want to make any judgments just yet, but I'm really hoping Mega Evolutions have priority during a battle. That'd help Mawile out quite a bit. Unfortunately I don't see that being the case...
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#5Tequila_Shot(Topic Creator)Posted 9/12/2013 12:35:12 AM
Iced_Shadows posted...
Don't forget that Steel/Fairy is a pretty amazing typing. That's definitely a buff in itself.


Oh, I'm aware, but the 4x weakness to fire and inaccessibility to hold items because of Mega Evolution are glaring issues that tend to cut away at that. It depends on how much of an increase its defenses receive, because as it stands now, 229 is the best it can achieve in the stat (with max IV's and EV's). With such low HP, I'm not sure if even having high defenses will be enough, hence the concern.

Even with a single-stage stat boost, a well placed Flamethrower from something packing decent Sp. ATK is going to put a massive dent in Mega Mawile's health, if not outright OHKO.

But like I said, it all hinges on exactly how much it's defenses are boosted, and how it gets boosted. Whether it's stage-based, or if it alters the base stat.
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#6KillerMechanoidPosted 9/12/2013 12:36:08 AM
Tequila_Shot posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Don't forget that Steel/Fairy is a pretty amazing typing. That's definitely a buff in itself.


Oh, I'm aware, but the 4x weakness to fire and inaccessibility to hold items because of Mega Evolution are glaring issues that tend to cut away at that.

It only has a 2x weakness to fire. The other problem is a 2x weakness to EQ.
#7Tequila_Shot(Topic Creator)Posted 9/12/2013 12:40:14 AM(edited)
KillerMechanoid posted...
Tequila_Shot posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Don't forget that Steel/Fairy is a pretty amazing typing. That's definitely a buff in itself.


Oh, I'm aware, but the 4x weakness to fire and inaccessibility to hold items because of Mega Evolution are glaring issues that tend to cut away at that.

It only has a 2x weakness to fire. The other problem is a 2x weakness to EQ.


My mistake, I thought Fairy was weak to Fire.

Earthquake isn't as much a threat as Flamethrower is. Mawile has better physical defense (by about 30 points), which will soak up some of the damage from Earthquake, even moreso with the defense boost from Mega Evolution.
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#8Iced_ShadowsPosted 9/12/2013 12:41:08 AM
I seriously want to know just what Mega Evolutions do to stats... I mean I know Mega Mawile gets increased defenses, but I'd also like to know if the other stats will go up a little bit too (like a normal evolution, I guess.)

Eh. So far the most promising Mega Evolution in my personal opinion is Mega Venusaur.
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#9Tequila_Shot(Topic Creator)Posted 9/12/2013 12:43:24 AM
Iced_Shadows posted...
I seriously want to know just what Mega Evolutions do to stats... I mean I know Mega Mawile gets increased defenses, but I'd also like to know if the other stats will go up a little bit too (like a normal evolution, I guess.)

Eh. So far the most promising Mega Evolution in my personal opinion is Mega Venusaur.


Same here. If the other stats don't see a boost, then Mega Mawile had better get some gnarly, Shuckle-grade defenses, because 50 Speed and 50 base HP won't let it do much.
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#10Hanon623Posted 9/12/2013 12:48:11 AM
It has sucker punch and sd, it'll also presumably have drain kiss making it a stronger Conkeldur with a better typing. Regular Mawile has intimidate as well meaning that mega mawiles immediate foe will have minus 1 attack.

I can see an sd set with iron head sucker punch and fairy kiss having great success.