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Poison should be super effective on water

#21Emperor_mateusPosted 10/6/2013 12:46:05 PM
Its all about the amount used. Drop a glass of poison in the sea and it isn't likely to do something, but drop some poison in a glass of water and things can get dangerous.

I don't mind the two being neutral against each other. I would rather see poison being super effective on fighting.
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#22GolurkcanflyPosted 10/6/2013 12:46:16 PM
Poison should be SE against Fighting again.
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#23slaterastle(Topic Creator)Posted 10/6/2013 12:46:34 PM
robinhoek posted...
slaterastle posted...
Mobile_Platform posted...
But water usually dilutes poison...


But if poison is put in water, I'm not going to drink it.

Poison super effective on everything is a bit much, but hey maybe idk


Yeah but if you get poison on you you might want some water to wash it off.


But if poison is on me, it won't hurt me unless I lick it or something. Plus I would need soap and we aren't going to mix water types with soap types to make them better.

Steel fairy is the most defensive type ever, dark ghost is still awesome even though fairy ruined its immunity streak, and electrode will forever be invincible due to levitating over its only weakness. So water/fighting isn't that great.

And all I know is poison is bad no matter how strong or weak it is.
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#24Mewtwo_soulPosted 10/6/2013 12:46:47 PM
Iced_Shadows posted...
Does this topic even need to exist anymore? Poison got an immense buff, being one of only two things able to counter Fairy. That plus the fact it is great on the defensive side means Poison really doesn't need anything else, except maybe more Poison-types with better stats.

The typings that need buffs are Ice (needs less weaknesses), Psychic (needs to be SE on something else), and maybe Grass (it could use less weaknesses too I guess.) That's it. I really don't even think Bug needs anything changed.


There are only like 3 competitively viable Bug types, and you don't think anything needs to be changed?

(Scizor is only amazing due to Steel sub type, Heracross is part Fighting, and Volcarona has Quiver dance, Bug has nothing to do with them being awesome competitively.)

Let me not mention 99% of NU is Bug Pokemon. (Exaggerating but close enough)
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#25Iced_ShadowsPosted 10/6/2013 12:48:24 PM
Mewtwo_soul posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Does this topic even need to exist anymore? Poison got an immense buff, being one of only two things able to counter Fairy. That plus the fact it is great on the defensive side means Poison really doesn't need anything else, except maybe more Poison-types with better stats.

The typings that need buffs are Ice (needs less weaknesses), Psychic (needs to be SE on something else), and maybe Grass (it could use less weaknesses too I guess.) That's it. I really don't even think Bug needs anything changed.


There are only like 3 competitively viable Bug types, and you don't think anything needs to be changed?

(Scizor is only amazing due to Steel sub type, Heracross is part Fighting, and Volcarona has Quiver dance, Bug has nothing to do with them being awesome competitively.)

Let me not mention 99% of NU is Bug Pokemon. (Exaggerating but close enough)


Honestly, as far as I can tell Bug types simply need better stats. GameFreak just makes too many with subpar stats.
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#26Mewtwo_soulPosted 10/6/2013 12:49:42 PM
Iced_Shadows posted...
Mewtwo_soul posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Does this topic even need to exist anymore? Poison got an immense buff, being one of only two things able to counter Fairy. That plus the fact it is great on the defensive side means Poison really doesn't need anything else, except maybe more Poison-types with better stats.

The typings that need buffs are Ice (needs less weaknesses), Psychic (needs to be SE on something else), and maybe Grass (it could use less weaknesses too I guess.) That's it. I really don't even think Bug needs anything changed.


There are only like 3 competitively viable Bug types, and you don't think anything needs to be changed?

(Scizor is only amazing due to Steel sub type, Heracross is part Fighting, and Volcarona has Quiver dance, Bug has nothing to do with them being awesome competitively.)

Let me not mention 99% of NU is Bug Pokemon. (Exaggerating but close enough)


Honestly, as far as I can tell Bug types simply need better stats. GameFreak just makes too many with subpar stats.


Well that's the thing aside from movepools. But they do need buffs then as you implied about the stats. (seriously, Beedrill is slower than Blastoise. Like wut?)
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#27ClassyOldHatPosted 10/6/2013 12:50:45 PM
Mobile_Platform posted...
slaterastle posted...
Mobile_Platform posted...
But water usually dilutes poison...


But if poison is put in water, I'm not going to drink it.

Poison super effective on everything is a bit much, but hey maybe idk


That's not every poison. Sure some poison is the odorless and colorless one drink kill that old kings used to fret about, but most is fairly harmless in anything but huge doses.


Most poison is also fairly harmless to plants in anything but large doses.
#28slaterastle(Topic Creator)Posted 10/6/2013 12:51:34 PM
LaManoNeraII posted...
No, Water should be SE on Poison

When you get chemicals in your eye, what's the first thing you should do? Rush to the water fountain eye flushing station!


But what is in your body that poison makes bad? You guessed it, water.
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#29Iced_ShadowsPosted 10/6/2013 12:55:02 PM
Mewtwo_soul posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Mewtwo_soul posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Does this topic even need to exist anymore? Poison got an immense buff, being one of only two things able to counter Fairy. That plus the fact it is great on the defensive side means Poison really doesn't need anything else, except maybe more Poison-types with better stats.

The typings that need buffs are Ice (needs less weaknesses), Psychic (needs to be SE on something else), and maybe Grass (it could use less weaknesses too I guess.) That's it. I really don't even think Bug needs anything changed.


There are only like 3 competitively viable Bug types, and you don't think anything needs to be changed?

(Scizor is only amazing due to Steel sub type, Heracross is part Fighting, and Volcarona has Quiver dance, Bug has nothing to do with them being awesome competitively.)

Let me not mention 99% of NU is Bug Pokemon. (Exaggerating but close enough)


Honestly, as far as I can tell Bug types simply need better stats. GameFreak just makes too many with subpar stats.


Well that's the thing aside from movepools. But they do need buffs then as you implied about the stats. (seriously, Beedrill is slower than Blastoise. Like wut?)


Is it really slower than Blastoise? Wat. Man, I'd kill to see Mega Evolutions for things like Beedrill. I honestly think the only Mega Evolutions we've gotten that were actually truly needed were Mawile's and Blastoise's. Even Charizard has good enough stats to hit hard, it just has a terrible typing.
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#30Mewtwo_soulPosted 10/6/2013 12:56:28 PM
Iced_Shadows posted...
Mewtwo_soul posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Mewtwo_soul posted...
Iced_Shadows posted...
Does this topic even need to exist anymore? Poison got an immense buff, being one of only two things able to counter Fairy. That plus the fact it is great on the defensive side means Poison really doesn't need anything else, except maybe more Poison-types with better stats.

The typings that need buffs are Ice (needs less weaknesses), Psychic (needs to be SE on something else), and maybe Grass (it could use less weaknesses too I guess.) That's it. I really don't even think Bug needs anything changed.


There are only like 3 competitively viable Bug types, and you don't think anything needs to be changed?

(Scizor is only amazing due to Steel sub type, Heracross is part Fighting, and Volcarona has Quiver dance, Bug has nothing to do with them being awesome competitively.)

Let me not mention 99% of NU is Bug Pokemon. (Exaggerating but close enough)


Honestly, as far as I can tell Bug types simply need better stats. GameFreak just makes too many with subpar stats.


Well that's the thing aside from movepools. But they do need buffs then as you implied about the stats. (seriously, Beedrill is slower than Blastoise. Like wut?)


Is it really slower than Blastoise? Wat. Man, I'd kill to see Mega Evolutions for things like Beedrill. I honestly think the only Mega Evolutions we've gotten that were actually truly needed were Mawile's and Blastoise's. Even Charizard has good enough stats to hit hard, it just has a terrible typing.


Agreed. Hopefully they'll continue to make them after this gen and target "inferior" Pokemon. As much as I want to like Beedrill, and ____ thier craptasticness sucks.
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