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anyone else wondering about Kalos pokemon and HM users?

#1paiprPosted 10/7/2013 6:23:02 AM
Specifically fly and surf. I've never been able to not make a team partially based around these two moves. Adventuring through the main game almost always requires those two, and they are two of the most annoying moves to have too. Ok power, but limited distribution (even more limiting when you consider that not all the pokemon that learn them have the stats to back it up)

So is anyone else wondering who gets these HMs. And if they have the stats to back it up?

Bonus point of sadness; I was really looking forward to Malamar, it seemed like a shoe in for a none water type that can use surf and a great special attacker. Stats reveal he is a physical attacker. sad day.
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#2paipr(Topic Creator)Posted 10/7/2013 6:24:37 AM
geh... movements after posting this I see a screen shot of Pangoro and it can learn Surf, but like so many that can he is a physical attacker.
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#3Flame552Posted 10/7/2013 6:25:40 AM
It's either HMs are back, or they plan on completely revamping Hoenn.
#4paipr(Topic Creator)Posted 10/7/2013 6:26:27 AM
Flame552 posted...
It's either HMs are back, or they plan on completely revamping Hoenn.


not even the question.
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#5LOOOPSPosted 10/7/2013 6:27:31 AM
I assume all the water Pokemon will get surf, including Dragalge. Maybe even Goodra will get it since it's moveset is so heavily based on water.

The three new flying types are Hawlucha, Talonflame, Noivern, and Vivillion. Vivillion is a bug so that probably won't learn Fly.
#6scitch1Posted 10/7/2013 6:28:42 AM
talonflame is my bird/fire :) fly will be good as it looks like it gets good attack and speed

surf can go on greninja , a good solid water move and he has good special attack

im sure you can find something out there

clauncher and its evo have great special attack too for surfing
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#7paipr(Topic Creator)Posted 10/7/2013 6:38:30 AM
scitch1 posted...
talonflame is my bird/fire :) fly will be good as it looks like it gets good attack and speed

surf can go on greninja , a good solid water move and he has good special attack

im sure you can find something out there

clauncher and its evo have great special attack too for surfing


true. and ive thought of talonflame for that reason.

greninja and clauncher seem to be good candidates for surf. but at the same time most surfers are physical attackers, and water types. i like the idea of getting surf on a good special attacker, and then using another water type move on my water type (i try to not overlap types, as well as overlap move types)
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#8Katharina27Posted 10/7/2013 6:50:47 AM
It takes some time to train but Dragonite is by far the best one for the job. He is in my opinion the most versatile HM slave in the game.
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#9CakeOfLiesPosted 10/7/2013 6:53:09 AM
Katharina27 posted...
It takes some time to train but Dragonite is by far the best one for the job. He is in my opinion the most versatile HM slave in the game.


Aside from Mew, of course.
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#10Katharina27Posted 10/7/2013 6:54:36 AM
CakeOfLies posted...
Katharina27 posted...
It takes some time to train but Dragonite is by far the best one for the job. He is in my opinion the most versatile HM slave in the game.


Aside from Mew, of course.


I may have started using Dragonite to piss of competitive players but even I wont do that to a mew.
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