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Mega Mewtwo Y possibly outclassed by regular Mewtwo?

#1PGirtsPosted 10/7/2013 11:41:28 AM
Mega Mewtwo Y's stats: http://i.imgur.com/93sChyp.jpg

Looking at this images, his base Sp. Attk stat is right around 200, maybe a little lower.
You may be better off reserving a Mega Stone for another Pokemon.

A Base Stat of 200 will get a Timid Mega Mewtwo Y 499 Sp. Attk. Regular Mewtwo with a Life Orb and Timid nature gets a Sp. Attk stat of 529.

Mega Mewtwo Y is definitely faster though, so how about running him with a Modest nature? Well, judging by this image and as others have pointed out, his Base Speed is right around 140. With a Modest Nature, his max Speed would be about 379, considerably lower than a regular Timid Mewtwo's 394. 1 point in speed is all it takes to lose a match, so this is a pretty sizable difference.

Also, Mega Mewtwo Y's Sp. Attk would be 548, which is not much higher than a Life Orb regular Timid Mewtwo's 529, and certainly not high enough to justify the lost speed. Mega Mewtwo Y will need a Base Speed stat of 148 in order to run a Modest nature with the regular Timid Mewtwo's speed.

So, to summarize, Mega Mewtwo Y with a Speed boosting nature will hit faster but not as hard as regular Mewtwo with a Speed boosting nature and Life Orb. If you run a Sp. Attk boosting nature on Mega Mewtwo Y, he will slightly harder than regular Timid Mewtwo with Life Orb, but won't be as fast.
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#2forest_wandererPosted 10/7/2013 11:43:00 AM
Stop and go back and read what you wrote.
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#3Mewtwo_soulPosted 10/7/2013 11:43:08 AM
It's off by about 2~6 points of damage.

The major thing is though unlike LO Megaevo form will not costs health every turn on recoil. Has better SPDF to set up on Calm Mind, but on the other hand takes physical blows in a terrible fashion compared to Normal. (Then again Dat Health isn't bad.)
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#4MM125Posted 10/7/2013 11:43:44 AM
A 30 point Sp. Attack loss is something I'll gladly take for a Speed boost and not taking recoil.
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#5lnightfurylPosted 10/7/2013 11:45:57 AM
PGirts posted...

You may be better off reserving a Mega Stone for another Pokemon.
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That's not quite how it works.
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#6PGirts(Topic Creator)Posted 10/7/2013 11:50:29 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, reviews of the game have stated you can only use one Mega Evolution per team.
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#7Mewtwo_soulPosted 10/7/2013 11:51:38 AM
PGirts posted...
Unless I'm mistaken, reviews of the game have stated you can only use one Mega Evolution per team.


Yep.

Each team (whoever you're facing and you're own team) can have one Megaevo.
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#8PGirts(Topic Creator)Posted 10/7/2013 11:56:17 AM
MM125 posted...
A 30 point Sp. Attack loss is something I'll gladly take for a Speed boost and not taking recoil.


Regular Mewtwo only has to worry about priority moves and Deoxys. The speed boost that Mega Mewtwo Y gets is not enough to deal with either of those threats.
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#9Roc_RaidaPosted 10/7/2013 12:29:26 PM(edited)
This is why Mega forms are overrated as f***. Items play a huge role in competitive Pokemon and none of the Mega forms can run good items.

Also I found it funny that regular Mewtwo is more powerful than MMY.

Timid MMY has a special attack of 487. Regular Mewtwo has 407

For comparison sake here's both Mewtwo's Psystrike against 0/252 Ghost Arceus

MMY: 487 Atk vs 276 Def & 444 HP (100 Base Power): 190 - 225 (42.79% - 50.68%)


Mewtwo with LO: 407 Atk vs 276 Def & 444 HP (100 Base Power): 205 - 243 (46.17% - 54.73%)


It might be a +4% chance but that's huge sometimes in determining 2HKOs instead of 3HKOs

55.16% chance of 2HKO Arceus from a Mewtwo with LO compared to a 0.99% chance of 2HKO Arceus from a MMY.
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#10JazzarusPosted 10/8/2013 7:12:07 PM
Life Orb boosts the BASE POWER of moves by 30%, and calculations based on that factor should further mitigate any of the aforementioned shortcomings of MMY over Mewtwo.

By the way, to avoid a misunderstanding, LO= BP(.3)
Example:

Psytrike (100) x 1.3 = 130