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There seems to be some ignorance about RNGing going on around this board

#1OniBowserPosted 10/17/2013 12:09:52 PM
RNGing is not cheating in the slightest. it doesn't even belong in any kind of grey area. for those of you who don't really understand what RNGing is it is turning on your ds to a predetermined time and date in order to obtain flawless IVed pokemon. No altering to your ds or game is needed. so while you spend hours on hours just to get 1 or 2 stats IVed at 31 i'm taking minutes out of my day to get all stats to 31. is this an exploit? sure, but just because it is does not mean you're cheating you are merely using what the game has given you to your advantage.

and don't you dare try to accuse me of "indirectly cheating" because the makers of the RNG program (kudos to them for being able to do this and understanding how valuable my time is) had to find the patterns in the framing process of the pokemon games. i have not altered my pokemon games or ds in anyway and i have flawless IVed pokemon.

let's be a little more open minded and do our research before we start witch hunting, that is all. /end rant
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#2snsstePosted 10/17/2013 12:11:35 PM
how does RNGing work? lol im confused
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#3CalciferJenkinsPosted 10/17/2013 12:12:12 PM
I dare to accuse you of cheating directly, not indirectly. I'm not going to change my mind, I don't expect you to.
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#4GraverobberJPosted 10/17/2013 12:12:15 PM
The only people are against RNGing are those who just want to put themselves on a moral pedestal, ignore them.
#5sephiroth1491Posted 10/17/2013 12:12:44 PM
Exploiting is still a form of cheating, and that's why every game developer frowns on poeple that abuse them, especially on games with competitive systems. Covering the sun with your finger doesn't make it disappear.
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#6Frost_LASERPosted 10/17/2013 12:12:52 PM
I did it in Platinum for a bit, but it was pointless and meaningless. I lost most of the joy of just playing the game, took all of the fun out of it for me.
#7TheDarkNerdPosted 10/17/2013 12:16:36 PM
From: snsste | #002
how does RNGing work? lol im confused


Random Number Generators aren't actually random. They are generated by subjecting one or more "seeds" to a series of algorithms that is supposed to produce an unpredictable output, and the output is supposed to be relatively uniform when iterated enough.

So basically, if you can figure out the pattern of what seeds produce what results, you can try to control what hidden variables you can (which can be things like steps taken, the current time, your current playtime, number of times buttons have been pressed, your name, the name of your lead pokemon, etc), to try to get repeatable results, and use those predictable results to try and obtain the best of whatever you can.
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#8Dark Young LinkPosted 10/17/2013 12:17:14 PM
nononono

Do not make a continuation of my topic.

FFS please do not.
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#9SesshoruPosted 10/17/2013 12:17:52 PM
Did GF intend for this to be part of the game? If not then you probably are a cheater.
#10OniBowser(Topic Creator)Posted 10/17/2013 12:17:58 PM
snsste posted...
how does RNGing work? lol im confused


its alot to take in at first but once you do you're first poke it gets loads easier. but pmuch you download a program from smogon, find your ds parameters, pick what kind of stats/natures/ability/gender you want your poke to have, and then turn on the pokemon game at a set time and date that will give you said qualities. imo it's extremely rewarding when i rng a flawless pokemon without the use of cheats.
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