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Looking to make a particular Mega Venusaur (Mega Blaziken counter)

#1untrustfulPosted 10/19/2013 11:15:47 PM
Dumb idea this probably is, but I regret not the floored blaziken that's his.~Profound Moment

Something like:

Venusaur w/Venusaurite (Thick Fat)
??? Nature
252 HP and ATK

Earthquake
Seed Bomb
Sleep Powder
???

What natures boost attack and sacrifice special defense/speed? What's a good 4th move?
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#2oMaJoJPosted 10/19/2013 11:18:52 PM
Naughty = +Attack, -SpD
Brave = +Attack, -Speed

Personal Opinion: That's not gonna work, brah
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#3untrustful(Topic Creator)Posted 10/19/2013 11:20:58 PM
oMaJoJ posted...
That's not gonna work, brah


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#4kentdsfreakPosted 10/19/2013 11:24:36 PM
it doesnt resist a STAB flare blitz off of a 160 BP mega blaziken. How do you expect it to be a counter? Also if blaziken's already out attacking stuff, you cant even switch in your venasaur safely since it needs your turn to mega evolve..
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#5oMaJoJPosted 10/19/2013 11:27:06 PM
You said MegaBlaziken and then counter. That was the first red flag. Then the pokemon you chose is weak to one of Blaziken's STAB moves. That's why I don't think it'll work.
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#6untrustful(Topic Creator)Posted 10/19/2013 11:28:05 PM
Oh right, I forgot about the turn thing for those mega stones.
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#7Alty1Posted 10/19/2013 11:29:29 PM(edited)
oMaJoJ posted...
You said MegaBlaziken and then counter. That was the first red flag. Then the pokemon you chose is weak to one of Blaziken's STAB moves. That's why I don't think it'll work.


It's technically not "weak" since Thick Fat turns his Fire weakness into a neutrality. Still, it's not good to be neutral when you're eating a flare blitz from something like the Chicken.

Also, it could easily have Brave Bird, which would tear off Venusaur's face, thick fat or no.
#8Mr_Splash_ManPosted 10/19/2013 11:29:02 PM
oMaJoJ posted...
You said MegaBlaziken and then counter. That was the first red flag. Then the pokemon you chose is weak to one of Blaziken's STAB moves. That's why I don't think it'll work.


Well technically with Thick Fat Venusaur is neutral to all of Blazikens attacks, but still, there's no countering that thing.
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#9untrustful(Topic Creator)Posted 10/19/2013 11:38:57 PM
Ah right, brave bird as well.
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#10WydisPosted 10/21/2013 11:50:43 AM
To counter a mega blaziken, the simplest option I see is Gale Wings (flying moves have priority) Talonflame. Resists Blaziken's STAB attacks, not immensely frail (could probably take a normal resisted hit well enough, but idk about sun/sword dance boosted hits), and has priority to counter speed boost. No need to waste a mega slot on it.

There are better counters around, but, ability aside, this is probably the simplest, and I've found plenty with the ability via wonder trade (secret abilities are breedable now, after all).

That way, venasaur can stick to only using think fat to tank non-stab low BP coverage moves, as it's meant to. Also, try special attacking giga drain (breed with a foongus/rosellia), sleep powder, sludge bomb (die fairies!), and synthesis-- Between sleep and healing, it's hard to take down. For physical, though, yeah, EQ and petal blizzard (or power whip, if you feel like egg move-ing it) will work nicely. Use a Sp. Atk or Sp Def boosting nature, maaaaybe a Def boosting one. Venasaur's high Sp. Def lets it switch into electric hits with ease, and EQ can take 'me out after doing so (it's not for switching into fire types, just hurting them on a predicted switch, or if they stay in while hit by a sleep powder on the switch.

Hope that helps-- if you need a gale wings fletchling or a Bulbasaur with giga drain or such, I can probably help out with that.
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