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Sticky Web and Stealth Rock.

#1scrappybristolPosted 10/21/2013 7:47:03 PM
The metagame will revolve around these two hazards.
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#2RikiazPosted 10/21/2013 7:49:06 PM
Defog now removes all hazards and is unblock able, unlike Rapid Spin. It also has better distribution. So no.
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#3DarnstuffPosted 10/21/2013 7:49:30 PM
Defog can completely negate both of them. In fact, it's harder than ever to rely on SR or Sticky Web due to the ease of Defog.
#4phalnxPosted 10/21/2013 7:50:06 PM
Not that many Pokemon learn Defog though, at least until Pokebank happens
#5Twilight_SonataPosted 10/21/2013 7:50:52 PM
Defog can be prevented by Taunt, though. Then again, it can't be stopped by Ghosts.
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#6phalnxPosted 10/21/2013 8:00:23 PM
Looking through GenV stuff, the only things that can learn Defog is Swanna, Braviary, Chatot, Pidgeot and Crobat, those and whatever can learn it this gen (Talonflame?)

So you the only reliable Defogger is Crobat
#7chakillionairePosted 10/21/2013 8:01:10 PM
Scizor, Empoleon, Flygon, etc.
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#8DigiDude77Posted 10/21/2013 8:03:32 PM
phalnx posted...
Looking through GenV stuff, the only things that can learn Defog is Swanna, Braviary, Chatot, Pidgeot and Crobat, those and whatever can learn it this gen (Talonflame?)

So you the only reliable Defogger is Crobat


Any pretty much anything that can learn it via HM in D/P/PT once PokeBank goes live.

Trade it to HeartGold/SoulSilver then transfer to Black/White, then transfer once the Pokebank goes live.
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#9ExaetellusPosted 10/21/2013 8:04:21 PM
The hell is Sticky Web?
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#10ExaetellusPosted 10/21/2013 8:05:10 PM
Darnstuff posted...
Defog can completely negate both of them. In fact, it's harder than ever to rely on SR or Sticky Web due to the ease of Defog.


SERIOUSLY?!
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