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New evidence suggests that "-ate" abilities boost BP by 30%.

#1TodasmilePosted 10/25/2013 11:56:46 PM
Not sure if Smogon's linkable here, but basically there's some decent testing going on that could make those "useless" abilities much more usable. I don't know about you, but I think that a 1.3x boost on Normal attacks AND the addition of STAB makes them a lot more useful than it was first assumed.

And puts Mega Pinsir straight into Ubers.

Discuss?
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#2GaruketoPosted 10/25/2013 11:59:14 PM
If its true, Hyper Voice Sylveon here I come.
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#3LexifoxPosted 10/26/2013 12:02:39 AM
You can link to Smogon here. There's no rules. Just expect a little backlash from people who dislike Smogon.
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#4Oblivion_SlayerPosted 10/26/2013 12:02:42 AM
Examples?
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#5Todasmile(Topic Creator)Posted 10/26/2013 12:05:59 AM(edited)
Garuketo posted...
If its true, Hyper Voice Sylveon here I come.


120 BP Fairy Move, gets stab, bypasses Subs, hits both opponents in Doubles if that's your thing. Pixilate isn't meant to give you options, it's just the ability you get that gives you access to THAT.

Aurorus is still kinda hung out to dry though. It has a decent Physical movepool, but that's its bad stat...

Smogon Thread: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-battle-mechanics-research.3489239/page-28

Search "mario" until you find a post that looks like it has statistics.
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#6DrOchasioPosted 10/26/2013 12:07:05 AM
too bad it's still almost useless on Aurorus aside from a gimmicky Hyper Beam

Slyveon still has a horrible moveset and completes with Florges for a spot on teams though Pixilate boosted Hyper Voice will probably push it over

I'm not too sure about how this affects Gardevoir

Pinsir really likes that boosted quick attack and return
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#7JordycePosted 10/26/2013 12:08:34 AM
Return on Mega Pinsir. That's 130BP + STAB, ouch.
#8Todasmile(Topic Creator)Posted 10/26/2013 12:14:31 AM
From what I can tell:

RETURN THRASH BODY SLAM QUICK ATTACK ASADHFADSFADSFTier:

Mega Pinsir.

WHOAAAAA Tier:

Gardevoir
Sylveon

Why ;-; Tier:

Aurorus
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#9FearlessKagePosted 10/26/2013 12:17:19 AM
Oh boy
#10Ari917Posted 10/26/2013 12:18:43 AM
Todasmile posted...

Why ;-; Tier:

Aurorus


Because GF loves screwing over ice types even more then Flareon.
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