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2 years ago#1
What tier will Greninja fall in? - Results (145 votes)
1.38% (2 votes)
Overused (OU)
64.83% (94 votes)
Borderline (BL)
24.83% (36 votes)
Underused (UU)
6.21% (9 votes)
Rarely Used (RU)
0.69% (1 votes)
Never used (NU)
2.07% (3 votes)
This poll is now closed.
Today we predict what tier our ninja frog, Greninja will be in. So far, so good. As stated before, the moves it can learn are in the link below.

Greninja: Water/Dark
Abilities: Torrent, (Protean)
Base Stats: Hp: 72, Atk: 95, Def: 67, SpA: 103, SpD: 71, Speed: 122

Results from past topics:
Day 1, Chesnaught: Underused (UU) with 48.71% majority of the vote.

Day 2, Delphox: Underused (UU), with a solid 50.23% of the vote.
2 years ago#2
As someone who jumped into this gen after Gold/Silver being the last Pokemon game I played, this topic was of extreme informational use to me. I had no clue what any of those abbreviations meant when people used them and was too lazy to look them up. Thank you for clarifying that for me.

That said, I believe Greninja will be overused.
2 years ago#3
BL at the very least.
No way that thing is going into UU.
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2 years ago#4
BL most likely. It dies too easily, even if you exploit Protean to gain immunities and resistances, since it can't take a lot of strong neutral attacks (your opponent may use a neutral attack instead of what you expect them to use). If you sacrifice attacking EVs for HP so that it can take more neutral hits, It won't be 1 hit killing a lot of things even with maxed out ATK/SP.ATK EVs (so imagine how bad its damage output will be with HP EVs) even with STAB on everything. Using it correctly also requires prediction, which can be said for a lot of things, but there are ton of things in OU that don't need to rely as heavily on prediction to be anywhere near their full potential.

With the release of Move Tutor in the next game, it may become way better though (Maybe getting new toys like Ice Punch, Sucker Punch, and a few other things?).
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2 years ago#5
OU. having STAB on everything seems good, but what really seems great is the ability to just change your weakness all the time. Especially with HP since it can be anything it wants.
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2 years ago#6
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2 years ago#8
I'd say BL
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2 years ago#9
122 base speed with all moves being STAB. Greninja makes a great revenge killer, substitute user, and whatnot. His only real flaw is the lackluster move pool. I think he will comfortably fit in OU.
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2 years ago#10
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