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2 years ago#61
Miniman237 posted...
if smogon doesn't want a "luck" based metagame, then why do they allow you to use any damaging move except seismic toss/dragon rage/night shade/sonicboom?


Fixed damage moves aren't banned in anything except maybe little cup. I've seen Blisseys use seismic toss all the time.

The reason those moves are banned in little cup is because dragon rage can OHKO anything and sonic boom can 1-2HKO anything except whatever is immune to them.
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2 years ago#62
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
Twilight_Sonata posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
A para-fusion-flinch is just as bad as evasion boosting.

It has already been explained numerous times how it is not.

But it really is.

Wow, how convincing.
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2 years ago#63
Rook_the_Ranger posted...
Miniman237 posted...
if smogon doesn't want a "luck" based metagame, then why do they allow you to use any damaging move except seismic toss/dragon rage/night shade/sonicboom?


Fixed damage moves aren't banned in anything except maybe little cup. I've seen Blisseys use seismic toss all the time.

The reason those moves are banned in little cup is because dragon rage can OHKO anything and sonic boom can 1-2HKO anything except whatever is immune to them.


He's arguing that with a completely luck free metagame, those should be the only things allowed because every other move has luck value to it.

You go to any Pokemon damage calc and the output will always have a min and max damage value due to a random number generation in the damage formula.
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2 years ago#64
Wow. Talk about logic fail.
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