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2 years ago#11
Beanbear posted...
Shigmiya64 posted...
And now it's gone! It's all gone!

dont know what that means XD

Read your last sentence, then my post.
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2 years ago#12
Beanbear posted...
Ok we all know Garchomp is faster than Lucario. But MEGA lucario is faster, and not only that, but MEGA garchomp is slower than normal gar chomp.

I'm a JOLLY lucario with fully speed evs, max iv in speed, so i should be much faster than him. He can't be holding a choice scarf because he mega evolved so his item is Garchompite.

So how did he outspeed my lucario and used earthquake before my move went off?? I really don't get it, his speed is 92 while mine is 112... and i invested everything into speed!!


With Mega Evolutions, the new speed stat isn't factored in until the next turn.
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2 years ago#13
Davisman07 posted...
when you mega evolve the first turn of the evolution still uses the speed stat of the base pokemon. By that logic lucario would be only 90 and thus be outspeed by max speed chomp

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2 years ago#14
Did you both mega evolve on the same turn? Either that or Garchomp was holding Choice Scarf.
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2 years ago#15
Assuming your Lucario has max IVs and EVs in speed, we're missing a key bit of information: Did you mega-evolve the Lucario the turn he was outsped?
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2 years ago#16
BAMX posted...
Was this on the turn you Mega Evolved? Any Speed changes don't take effect until the end of the turn, so on the turn you Mega Evolve, it will use your normal Speed, not your Mega Evolved Speed.


got it, so he used his original speed against my original speed. Ok
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2 years ago#17
Slayerblade11 posted...
Either that or Garchomp was holding Choice Scarf.

Not possible for Mega Garchomp to hold Choice Scarf.
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2 years ago#18
Slayerblade11 posted...
Did you both mega evolve on the same turn? Either that or Garchomp was holding Choice Scarf.


Impossible megas CAN'T HOLD SCARFS
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2 years ago#19
BAMX posted...
Slayerblade11 posted...
Either that or Garchomp was holding Choice Scarf.

Not possible for Mega Garchomp to hold Choice Scarf.


Yeah, I forgot to read the Mega Part.
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2 years ago#20
Um so yea turn order is calculated as soon as the commands are in, meaning old speeds were used.

Nobody seems to know this, it's quite silly.
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