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Horde Encounter EV Training Guide v 2.0.6

#1Cheyne1990Posted 11/12/2013 2:53:56 PM
Citation(s) - All information on these topics are credit to their respective sources.

Effort Value Explanation:

Bulbapedia - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Effort_values
jayman 7 thread (GameFAQs) - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/67497972

Horde Encounter Locations and Effort Value Yields:

Serebii - http://serebii.net/xy/hordes.shtml
Stellar thread (Smogon) - http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/a-guide-to-ev-training-with-hordes.3490052/

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With my prevous thread(s) failing to contain enough information for a sticky, here is my final attempt. (Thanks to GameFAQs user J_Applei for the idea to compile Effort Value informations with Horde Locations.)
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Effort Values

Effort Values (More commonly known as EV's) are a Hidden Stat (Until Generation six) that modify the stat's of a pokemon's HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, and/or Speed.
Every pokemon that has been freshly caught or hatched will have zero EV's in any of it's given stats. Once that pokemon begins to battle and gain experience it will begin to fill out it's EV's.
There is a limit to how many EVs a pokemon can have however, that limit being 252 EV's in any particular stat to a total of 510 EV's on a pokemon.

A pokemon will not get the full effect of EV training until level 100, however this does not mean it isn't very relevant to lower level pokemon.
Level 50 pokemon (the standard for competitive battling under Nintendo rules) will gain one stat point for every eight EV's invested in a stat, while a level 100 will gain one stat for every four.

Gaining Effort Values

Each pokemon has a set amount of EV's they give when they are defeated in battle, this is called an EV yield.
For example; a wild Ghasty yields one Special Attack EV when it is defeated.
A pokemon will gain's EV's if it gains experience from a knockout, regardless of level and it does not have to participate in the battle (EXP Share) to gain EV's.

Pokemon can also gain EV's from three other methods: Vitamins, Wings, and Super Training

Vitamins come in six (Nine in actuality, but only six effect stats) different flavours, each corrisponding to a Pokemon Stat.

HP Up = HP stat
Protein = Attack stat
Iron = Defense stat
Calcium = Special Attack stat
Zinc = Special Defense stat
Carbos = Speed stat

For every one Vitamin you use on your pokemon it will gain ten EV's in the chosen stat, to a maximum of 100, at which point it will stop allowing you to use the vitamin.
Because of this cap, it is wise to use vitamins before you go to EV train (Be it Super Training or Horde Training), if you choose to use them.

Wings are similar to vitamins, as there is one wing corrisponding to each stat, however they will only provide one EV per use. Unlike Vitamins however, they are usable as long as the pokemon's EV's are not at maximum in the stat.

Health Wing = HP stat
Muscle Wing = Attack stat
Resist Wing = Defense stat
Genius Wing = Special Attack stat
Clever Wing = Special Defense stat
Swift Wing = Speed stat

Super Training is a new way to EV train introduced in Generation Six, requiring you to play mini games to raise a stat on a pokemon.
Super Training is useful to everyone EV training because it provides you with a graph that roughly shows you how many EV's you have on a pokemon, and what stats they are in. In addition to this effect, you can check if your EV's are at their maximum by using a Punching Bag to the corresponding stat. If you are unable to use the bag, you are at the max.

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#2Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 2:54:21 PM
Effort Value Maximums

Every pokemon has the ability to gain a total of 510 EV's, with a possible 252 EV's in one stat.
The maximum in previous generations was 255. For every 4 EV's in a stat it would raise that stat by one, however 255 is not divisible by four, so the optimal cut off was always 252. We just don't have to worry about going over this anymore.

When Are EV's Applied?

Immediately after gaining them, be it in the middle of a battle, right after using a Vitamin/Wing, or finishing a Super Training Regimen.

Are EV's Modifiable?

Effort Values are permanent for the most part, however you are able to remove some/all of them when using specific items.

Using a Rese Bag will reset all of your current EV's gained to zero, allowing you to re-train the pokemon.
The Juice Shoppe found in Lumiose city allows you to mix together a Perilous Soup (Kee and Maranga Berry) to gain the same effect.

There are also 'Stat Reducing' berries, which will remove 10 EV's from the chosen stat. These have to be 'discovered' in the Berry Feilds as mutations.

Pomeg Berry = HP stat
Kelpsy Berry = Attack stat
Qualot Berry = Defense stat
Hondew Berry = Special Attack stat
Grepa Berry = Special Defense stat
Tamato Berry = Speed stat
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There is also a 'infection' called Pokerus, which will double the gain of EV's on a pokemon whenever it gains experience.
Besides that, there are also many hold items that will change the amount of EV's a pokemon will gain from a knockout, such as;

Power Weight = HP stat
PowerBracer = Attack stat
PowerBelt = Defense stat
PowerLens = Special Attack stat
PowerBand = Special Defense stat
PowerAnklet = Speed stat

All of these items will add four EV's of the chosen stat to a knockout.
The last hold item is the Macho Brace and it functions similarily to Pokerus, as it doubles the EV gain from a knockout.

These items however only apply to the pokemon holding the item.

-->NOTE: Pokerus, Macho Brace, and the Power Items only modify EV gains from knockouts, and do not effect Super Training in anyway. Because of this, if you do not have any of these things it is more likely Super Training will be faster for you to use. However, if you have these things then Horde Training is much faster.

Are Effort Values Divided Per Knockout?

No. Every pokemon that gains experience from a knockout and is not already at the maxumim for EV's will gain the base EV yield. (Which can be modified with Pokerus and an item from above.)

(Base EV Yield[1-3] + Power Item Stat Gain[4]) x 2 for Pokerus = EV gain [10, 12, or 14] total per knockout.
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Horde Encounter EV Training

In Generation Six, horde encounters were introduced, which sped up the old EV training ways by a great margin.
The idea is to use the Power Items* with Pokerus** and the easily sweep-able horde encounters to give your pokemon a yeild of 50-60 EV's in a stat for one encounter.

[*Power Items]: Power Weight, Power Bracer, Power Belt, Power Lens, Power Band, and Power Anklet
All of these can be bought post Elite Four in Kiloude City, inside the Battle Maison, from the left side shopkeeper woman.

[**Pokerus]: A rare virus that can be contracted by your pokemon. When a pokemon is infected (Denoted on the information screen of a pokemon by the pink Pokerus stamp found to the right of the pokemon's level, or a small pink face found underneath the pokemons model, on the same screen.), they will gain twice the normal amount of Effort Values from a knock out.

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#3Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 2:55:02 PM
--> REMINDER: Every knock out that provides experience to a pokemon, will provide the full yeild of Effort Values to that pokemon. Effort Values are not divided between pokemon.

To begin this method, take the pokemon you plan to train and infect it with pokerus*. The pokerus will double the effort value yeild when an opposing pokemon is knocked out. (For example, a pokemon gives 1 Speed EV; pokerus will double it to 2.).

Equip the power item for the stat you wish to train, (Weight = HP, Bracer = Attack, Belt = Defense, Lens = Special Attack, Band = Special Defense, and Anklet = Speed.). This will further your effort value yeild an additional four points. (Base 1 Speed EV + Anklet = 5 Speed EVS. With Pokerus = 10.).

Now using a pokemon with Sweet Scent**, or the item Honey, you hunt for the Horde Encounter in the chosen area.
Once it is found, you kill them off with a multi-hit move like Surf or Earthquake. This will give you 50-60 EV's in the chosen stat. (Base 1 Speed EV + 4 Speed (Anklet) x 2 = 10 Speed EV's) x 5 Pokemon in a horde encounter = 50 Speed EV's.

The pokemon you wish to train does not have to participate in the battle if you have EXP Share on. However, it does need the power item equipped.

[*Infecting Pokerus]: To infect a pokemon with pokerus, you need to have a pokemon in your party that has the contractable virus (it is spreadable if it still has the pink pokerus stamp, not the small pink face.), turn off EXP Share, and complete or flee from pokemon battles until pokerus infects the pokemon you are looking to EV train. After this is done (if defeating pokemon), you can turn EXP Share on again.

[**Sweet Scent]: Many grass type pokemon learn Sweet Scent. For example, Bulbasaur learns it at level 21. However, a dedicated Sweet Scent/Horde Sweeper could be;

Smeargle - Own Tempo (Nickname: JellyBean, optional of course ;o] )

Modest - 6 HP/252 Special Attack/ 252 Speed

Discharge
Lave Plume/Sludge Wave
Surf
Sweet Scent


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#4Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 2:55:35 PM
HP
=Route 5 / Gulpin
/ 1 HP effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Connecting Cave / Whismur
/ 1 HP effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Azure Bay / Slowpoke
/ 1 HP effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 15 / Foongus
/ 1 HP effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 16 / Foongus
/ 1 HP effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 20 / Foongus
/ 1 HP effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Pokemon Village / Foongus
/ 1 HP effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Victory Road / Lickitung
/ 2 HP effort value(s) per pokemon
[Rare]


Attack
=Route 5 / Scraggy
/ 1 Attack effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 14 / Bellsprout
/ 1 Attack effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Route 14 / Ekans
/1 Attack effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Frost Cavern / Cubchoo
/ 1 Attack effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Terminus Cave / Larvitar Pokemon Y
/ 1 Attack effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 19 / Weepinbell
/ 2 Attack effort value(s) per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Route 19 / Arbok
/ 2 Attack effort value(s) per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 20 / Trevenant
/ 1 Attack effort value per pokemon

=Route 21 / Scyther
/ 1 Attack effort value per pokemon
[Rare]


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#5Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 2:57:43 PM
Defense
=Route 10 / Nosepass
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Reflection Cave / Roggenrola
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Reflection Cave / Carbink
/ 1 Defense and 1 Special Defense effort value per pokemon

=Azure Bay / Exeggcute
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 14 / Skorupi
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 15 / Klefki
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon

=Route 16 / Klefki
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon

=Route 18 / Geodude
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Route 18 / Durant
/ 2 Defense effort value(s) per pokemon
[Average]

=Terminus Cave / Durant
/ 2 Defense effort value(s) per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Terminus Cave / Geodude
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Terminus Cave / Aron Pokemon X
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 19 / Gligar
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Victory Road / Geodude
/ 1 Defense effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Victory Road (Caves 2 & 3) / Graveler
/ 2 Defense effort value(s) per pokemon
[Frequent]


Special Attack
=Route 7 / Psyduck
/ 1 Special Attack effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 7 / Roselia
/ 2 Special Attack effort value(s) per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 10 / Hondour Pokemon X
/ 1 Special Attack effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 12 / Mareep
/ 1 Special Attack effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Frost Cavern / Vanillite
/ 1 Special Attack effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Frost Cavern / Smoochum
/ 1 Special Attack effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 21 / Spinda
/ 1 Special Attack effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]


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#6Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 2:58:15 PM
Special Defense
=Route 7 / Hoppip
/ 1 Special Defense effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Reflection Cave / Mime Jr.
/ 1 Special Defense effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Reflection Cave / Carbink
/ 1 Defense and 1 Special Defense effort value per pokemon

=Pokemon Village / Lombre
/ 2 Special Defense effort(s) value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 21 / Swablu
/ 1 Special Defense effort value per pokemon
[Average]


Speed
=Connecting Cave / Zubat
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 8 / Wingull
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Route 8 / Taillow
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 10 / Yanma
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 10 / Electrike Pokemon Y
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 11 / Stunky
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Average]

=Route 11 / Starly
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Rare]

=Route 12 / Wingull
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Azure Bay / Wingull
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Route 15 / Murkrow
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Route 16 / Murkrow
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Frequent]

=Pokemon Village / Poliwag
/ 1 Speed effort value per pokemon
[Average]<

=Victory Road (Caves 1 & 4) / Floatzel
/ 2 Speed effort value(s) per pokemon
[Average]


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#7Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 2:58:59 PM
Mixed
=Route 5 / 4 Plusle and 1 Minun Pokemon X / 4 Minun and 1 Plusle Pokemon Y
/ 1 Speed effort value per Plusle / 1 Speed effort value per Minun

=Route 8 / 4 Zangoose and 1 Seviper Pokemon X / 4 Seviper and 1 Zangoose Pokemon Y
/ 2 Attack effort value(s) per Zangoose / 1 Attack and 1 Special Attack effort value(s) per Seviper

=Route 11 / 4 Nidoran Male and 1 Nidoran Female
/ 1 Attack effort value per Nidoran Male / 1 HP effort value per Nidoran Female

=Reflection Cave / 4 Roggenrolla and 1 Carbink
/ 1 Defense effort value per Roggenrolla / 1 Defense and 1 Special Defense effort value(s) per Carbink

=Route 12 / 4 Tauros and 1 Miltank
/ 1 Attack and 1 Speed effort value(s) per Tauros / 2 Defense effort value(s) per Miltank

=Route 18 / 4 Durant and 1 Heatmor
/ 2 Defense effort value(s) per Durant / 2 Special Attack effort value(s) per Heatmor

=Route 20 / 4 Trevenant and 1 Sudowoodo
/ 1 Attack effort value per Trevenant / 2 Defense effort value(s) per Sudowoodo

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I hope this information comes in handy for people, and I also thank the sources I used to create/compile this guide.
Thanks for reading.

Fixed spelling errors and added some minor information.

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#8Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 3:03:17 PM
Bump.
I hope this one can get stickied, I would rather not have to bump it fifty times :P
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#9nblasteroinPosted 11/12/2013 3:05:06 PM
Requesting sticky
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#10Cheyne1990(Topic Creator)Posted 11/12/2013 3:09:50 PM
Bump.
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