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2 years ago#11
RemixDeluxe posted...
Actually, everyone in this topic is wrong. Protect is a +4 priority move while feint is +2.

The only damaging moves that can hurt against protect is an already charged focus punch and pursuit.

Source
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Priority


Feint deals damage, despite Protect or Detect being up. In fact, in Gen IV, it only deals damage if your opponent used Protect or Detect. It got changed in Gen V, to deal damage no matter what

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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Feint_%28move%29
2 years ago#12
Sopheroo posted...
RemixDeluxe posted...
Actually, everyone in this topic is wrong. Protect is a +4 priority move while feint is +2.

The only damaging moves that can hurt against protect is an already charged focus punch and pursuit.

Source
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Priority


Feint deals damage, despite Protect or Detect being up. In fact, in Gen IV, it only deals damage if your opponent used Protect or Detect. It got changed in Gen V, to deal damage no matter what

Source

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Feint_%28move%29


So its 3 moves then. Ok good stuff, thank you.
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2 years ago#13
RemixDeluxe posted...
Actually, everyone in this topic is wrong. Protect is a +4 priority move while feint is +2.

The only damaging moves that can hurt against protect is an already charged focus punch and pursuit.

Source
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Priority


i'll just leave this here.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Feint_%28move%29

Generation V

Feint can now inflict damage even if the target has not used Protect or Detect and its power has changed from 50 to 30.

Despite being an increased priority move, Feint will lift the effects of Wide Guard and Quick Guard for the remainder of the turn only if they are used on an opposing team. Feint can still break an ally's Protect or Detect, but cannot break a Pokémon's Endure.[1]
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2 years ago#14
i know for a fact that protect doesn't stop roar this gen
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2 years ago#15
Feint specifically has a "Breaks through Protect/Detect" property on it.

It doesn't matter that it's slower.
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2 years ago#16
Ac3777 posted...
i know for a fact that protect doesn't stop roar this gen


Even so I wanted to know about damaging moves that can bypass protect, just to clarify.
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2 years ago#17
I'm sure in hail blizzard has a 30% chance to break through protect or was that just gen 3/4?
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2 years ago#18
N-K-S posted...
I'm sure in hail blizzard has a 30% chance to break through protect or was that just gen 3/4?


" Generation IV

Blizzard has 100% accuracy if used while it is hailing. In Diamond and Pearl, it also has a 30% chance of bypassing Protect and Detect, but not in Platinum onward. "


http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blizzard_%28move%29
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2 years ago#19
I remember future sight passing through protect, as well.
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