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#11Caolan_2k9Posted 11/27/2013 11:14:30 AM
Saphirah posted...
Caolan_2k9 posted...
Greninja is the most OU this gen by an absolute mile.
Everyone has a greninja. EVERYONE
I hate it so much. It's so good at sweeping, glass canon or not, blistering speed + protean STAB + life orb.
Everyone of his moves get like 50% more power
I HATE GRENINJA AHHHHH


Learn to deal with him, he is no problem and has never been a threat for me.


Never been a threat?
His movepool is incredible, he outspeeds timid alakazam, gets STAB for free on top of a very respectable base special attack and and extra 30% if they choose to run a life orb.
It's a huge threat to everybody.
It can OHKO a multiscale dragonite.
#12RatheVPosted 11/27/2013 11:20:40 AM
PokeMin111 posted...

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cranidos: 246-289 (72.7 - 85.5%)
(Lowest defense stat of any rock type pokemon by the way)
no not really.

thats just one of many many solid counters. (all rock types with over 50 defense)

most overrated bird ever


That's not a counter. You can't switch Cranidos in, because it'll get 2HKO'd.
#13PokeMin111Posted 11/27/2013 11:23:10 AM
RatheV posted...
PokeMin111 posted...

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cranidos: 246-289 (72.7 - 85.5%)
(Lowest defense stat of any rock type pokemon by the way)
no not really.

thats just one of many many solid counters. (all rock types with over 50 defense)

most overrated bird ever


That's not a counter. You can't switch Cranidos in, because it'll get 2HKO'd.


thats just an example of bottom of the barrel, and in t his situation he would switch in on the swords dance and be able to OHKO with any rock move.

in addition this is without him wearing eviolite.

Talonflame is effectively countered by the entire rock type.
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#14RatheVPosted 11/27/2013 11:25:21 AM
PokeMin111 posted...

Talonflame is effectively countered by the entire rock type.


Then it's a damn shame that there are all of 2 viable rock types right now, and Terrakion's not available yet.
#15OrangeCrush980(Topic Creator)Posted 11/28/2013 12:40:05 PM
bump
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#16Luigi4PresidentPosted 11/28/2013 12:46:28 PM
Furfrou obviously
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#17Paper_OkamiPosted 11/28/2013 8:09:55 PM
PokeMin111 posted...
RatheV posted...
PokeMin111 posted...

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cranidos: 246-289 (72.7 - 85.5%)
(Lowest defense stat of any rock type pokemon by the way)
no not really.

thats just one of many many solid counters. (all rock types with over 50 defense)

most overrated bird ever


That's not a counter. You can't switch Cranidos in, because it'll get 2HKO'd.


thats just an example of bottom of the barrel, and in t his situation he would switch in on the swords dance and be able to OHKO with any rock move.

in addition this is without him wearing eviolite.

Talonflame is effectively countered by the entire rock type.



I wasn't aware that rock types were actually used.