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2 years ago#1
+2 252+ Atk Salac Berry Talonflame Natural Gift (100 BP Fighting) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 644-760 (159.4 - 188.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Apicot Berry Talonflame Natural Gift (100 BP Ground) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 664-784 (172 - 203.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Liechi Berry Talonflame Natural Gift (100 BP Grass) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 400-472 (96.6 - 114%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

GF pls ban.
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2 years ago#2
no i love to see OU crap lose to horrible designed OU crap
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2 years ago#3
I wanna breed a Talonflame now...
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2 years ago#4
Even Eviolite Rhydon dies in 1 hit wow.
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2 years ago#5
And how exactly is Talonflame supposed to get to +2 on any of those?
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2 years ago#6
Ace81892 posted...
And how exactly is Talonflame supposed to get to +2 on any of those?


Force a switch.
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2 years ago#7
Ace81892 posted...
And how exactly is Talonflame supposed to get to +2 on any of those?


Come in on a Pokemon that obviously isn't going to stay in against Gale Wings thereby giving Talonflame a free turn to SD. Assuming the swith will be a counter Pokemon like Heatran or Tyranitar, they'll be in for a surprise ohko next turn. And it's a common tactic to make such a prediction and go for a free set up move.
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2 years ago#8
Good thing I don't tell my opponent that I'm going to use a Rhydon, TTar, or Heatran to counter T-Flames before I battle them so they have time to hold the correct berry. Seriously that's entirely too situational.
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2 years ago#9
BlitzTHedgehog posted...
Good thing I don't tell my opponent that I'm going to use a Rhydon, TTar, or Heatran to counter T-Flames before I battle them so they have time to hold the correct berry. Seriously that's entirely too situational.


Not necessarily. Fighting/Ground/Grass still grants coverage of Talonflame's greatest weakness: rock.
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2 years ago#10
First, Talonflame needs to Sword Dance, this is possible but not that easy to do, considering how frail a Talonflame is. Then it needs Natural Gift with an item that you would ordinary not use, instead of another item and then you also need to keep it on the field.

Yeah, good luck with that. Want to see horrifying calcs? Use Shuckle instead. Consider it having used "Power Trick".
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