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What is the most powerful move in this game?

#1Gsus_94Posted 3/31/2014 11:03:35 AM
Not the move itself, but from what pokemon with what item, ability, etc. but not including stat boosts. Basically, what is the strongest attack without any stat boosts. Also, it has to be a neutral hit, not super effective (it would be different if I asked for highest damage output possible or something).

I'm thinking the most powerful attack is a choice specs Water Spout from Kyogre in the rain (modest 252 evs in sp atk), but maybe there's something else?
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#2BurnedPotatoesPosted 3/31/2014 11:06:07 AM
BP wise, Explosion.
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#3FinalInsanityPosted 3/31/2014 11:07:19 AM
Power Swap'd 5th turn of Rollout from Shuckle.

(I think)
#4Insanylum13Posted 3/31/2014 11:07:53 AM
Huge Power Play Rough?
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#5JohnRust7Posted 3/31/2014 11:08:35 AM
FinalInsanity posted...
Power Swap'd 5th turn of Rollout from Shuckle.

(I think)

Oh yeah, I recalled that question being asked before.
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#6senttooblivianPosted 3/31/2014 11:08:42 AM
FinalInsanity posted...
Power Swap'd 5th turn of Rollout from Shuckle.

(I think)

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#7TalesOfXAndYPosted 3/31/2014 11:09:32 AM
Gsus_94 posted...

I'm thinking the most powerful attack is a choice specs Water Spout from Kyogre in the rain (modest 252 evs in sp atk), but maybe there's something else?


There is nothing else:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey in Rain: 517-609 (72.4 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Deoxys-A Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 370-436 (51.8 - 61%) -- 95.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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#8FinalInsanityPosted 3/31/2014 11:10:17 AM
JohnRust7 posted...
FinalInsanity posted...
Power Swap'd 5th turn of Rollout from Shuckle.

(I think)

Oh yeah, I recalled that question being asked before.


I mean, I know Shuckle is still the highest damage-dealer in the game with an optimal setup, but I'm not sure if it still is in this context. Technically speaking, you could also get Trick'd a Choice Band after using Power Swap and that would be even stronger (and isn't technically a stat modifier)
#9shadowreaper7Posted 3/31/2014 11:13:29 AM(edited)
Choice Specs Deoxys-A Psycho Boost on any neutral target.
Pretty sure.

I mean Base 180, Stab and BP140 move.

Don't think anything aside from a Regigigas (Base 160, Stab, BP250) Explosion hits any harder.
But it doesn't learn it iirc so eh.

EDIT: Ah, didn't see it. Including Abilities/weather.
Then Probably that Kyogres water spout in rain yeah.
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#10TropiOUsPosted 3/31/2014 11:14:11 AM
Druddigon outrage

252+ Atk Druddigon Outrage vs. +6 252 HP / 252+ Def Xerneas through Reflect: 776-914 (170.1 - 200.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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