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What is the most powerful move in this game?

#21Matthew3DSGamerPosted 3/31/2014 12:01:06 PM
TalesOfXAndY posted...
Chaosmaster00 posted...
What about Choice Specs Flash Fire Chandelure in the Sun on the switch on a Will-'o-wisp?

252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Chandelure Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Sun: 730-859 (191.6 - 225.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO


TC said no Stat boosts outside of items


Not the move itself, but from what pokemon with what item, ability, etc


Flash Fire is an ability.
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#22Chaosmaster00Posted 3/31/2014 12:01:31 PM
There are no stat boosts, it's just the boost of Flash Fire, Chandelure's ability, and the Sun.
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#23TalesOfXAndYPosted 3/31/2014 12:02:02 PM
Chaosmaster00 posted...
There are no stat boosts, it's just the boost of Flash Fire, Chandelure's ability, and the Sun.


Ah,My bad
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#24abcDSBTPosted 3/31/2014 12:04:01 PM
What about Choice Band V-Create Victini in the sun? Or would Choice Band V-Create Rayquaza hit harder?
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#25Chaosmaster00Posted 3/31/2014 12:04:57 PM



252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Chandelure Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus: 486-573 (127.5 - 150.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Rain: 432-508 (113.3 - 133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO



Anyone want to dispute Chandelure wins, even without Sun?
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#26Chaosmaster00Posted 3/31/2014 12:07:15 PM
Without the Sun, Victini isn't as close as you think, however, with Sun, he gets a little over Chandelure without the sun.

252+ Atk Choice Band Victini V-create vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arceus in Sun: 517-609 (135.6 - 159.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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#27Matthew3DSGamerPosted 3/31/2014 12:14:53 PM
Chaosmaster00 posted...
Without the Sun, Victini isn't as close as you think, however, with Sun, he gets a little over Chandelure without the sun.

252+ Atk Choice Band Victini V-create vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arceus in Sun: 517-609 (135.6 - 159.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Yes, but he doesn't get Flash Fire.
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#28Chaosmaster00Posted 3/31/2014 12:16:46 PM
Which is why I was saying he isn't as close to Chandelure as the other guy thought. That is as good as Victini gets, and it's not close enough to the sheer horror of Chandelure after Flash Fire activates.
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#29TalesOfXAndYPosted 3/31/2014 12:22:33 PM(edited)
Chaosmaster00 posted...



252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Chandelure Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus: 486-573 (127.5 - 150.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Rain: 432-508 (113.3 - 133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO



Anyone want to dispute Chandelure wins, even without Sun?


Chandelure Borken nerf pls
I think Chandelure wins this one
The closest i can get(Assuming Flash Fire boost stays when it evolves) is:
+1 252+ SpA Solar Power Mega Houndoom Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Sun: 711-837 (186.6 - 219.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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#30CakeOfLiesPosted 3/31/2014 12:22:20 PM
TalesOfXAndY posted...
Chaosmaster00 posted...



252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Chandelure Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus: 486-573 (127.5 - 150.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Rain: 432-508 (113.3 - 133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO



Anyone want to dispute Chandelure wins, even without Sun?


Chandelure Borken nerf pls
I think Chandelure wins this one
The closest i can get(Assuming Flash Fire boost stays when it evolves) is:
+1 252+ SpA Solar Power Mega Houndoom Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Sun: 601-708 (157.7 - 185.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO


The boost doesn't stay, unfortunately.
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