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Protean Greninja counter?

#31Oblivion_HeroPosted 3/31/2014 5:12:59 PM
Well, MHera is more of a check. Unless Greninja has HP flying.

I just mentioned it because it can deal with a focus sash.
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#32cocomungaPosted 3/31/2014 6:09:16 PM
If he leads with it, use something with Fake Out, and have it hold a Focus Sash as well. You will get the first hit, and then finish off Greninja with another attack. This will beat your friend's Greninja every time


Persian@Focus Sash
Technician
Jolly Nature
252 Attack 252 speed
Fake Out
Flail
Bite
Taunt/U-Turn


You use Fake Out, he flinches, then he will go first (if it is Timid and not Modest) and bring you down to 1 HP. Your second turn should be Persian using Flail(200 BP STAB attack), wiping out Greninja, and possibly his next Pokemon.
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#33Model_OmegaPosted 3/31/2014 6:17:25 PM
Aside from dedicated special walls, here's the best that Greninja can do to a zero SpDef invested Milotic
252 SpA Protean Greninja Extrasensory/Dark Pulse (same BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 93-109 (23.6 - 27.6%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

Just Toxic it and recover.

Gastrodon works similarly with the same set, but has a chance at being 4HKOd

Also, don't take this as a counter to ALL Greninjas, one's with Grass Know (like mine) will ruin your day.
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